From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org  Thu Jul  9 16:22:05 2009
From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:22:05 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting tonight
Message-ID: <20090709112205.41b8c485@liberty.rlwhome.lan>

Yep, tonight's the night, and I'm actually going to show up!  :-)

-RW

From paulkilgo at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 17:29:18 2009
From: paulkilgo at gmail.com (Paul Kilgo)
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <20090709112205.41b8c485@liberty.rlwhome.lan>
References: <20090709112205.41b8c485@liberty.rlwhome.lan>
Message-ID: <1247160558.17216.0.camel@demigod>

I'll be there!

On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 11:22 -0500, Robby Workman wrote:
> Yep, tonight's the night, and I'm actually going to show up!  :-)
> 
> -RW
> _______________________________________________
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> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa


From mark at markgreene.info  Thu Jul  9 17:29:42 2009
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:29:42 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <1247160558.17216.0.camel@demigod>
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I'll be there as well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:29:18 
To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group<tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting tonight


I'll be there!

On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 11:22 -0500, Robby Workman wrote:
> Yep, tonight's the night, and I'm actually going to show up!  :-)
> 
> -RW
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa

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From nilson at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 17:29:38 2009
From: nilson at gmail.com (Nilson Cain)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:29:38 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <1247160558.17216.0.camel@demigod>
References: <20090709112205.41b8c485@liberty.rlwhome.lan>
	<1247160558.17216.0.camel@demigod>
Message-ID: <3f9b16920907091029m3d85dfa2q81572bb81d04487@mail.gmail.com>

Count me in

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'll be there!
>
> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 11:22 -0500, Robby Workman wrote:
> > Yep, tonight's the night, and I'm actually going to show up!  :-)
> >
> > -RW
> > _______________________________________________
> > TUXaloosa mailing list
> > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>



-- 
Nilson Cain
University of Alabama        Office of Information Technology, Research
nilson at gmail.com             (205) 292-5231
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From cameron.purvis at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 18:44:09 2009
From: cameron.purvis at gmail.com (Cameron Purvis)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:44:09 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <3f9b16920907091029m3d85dfa2q81572bb81d04487@mail.gmail.com>
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Looking forward to it


On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Nilson Cain <nilson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Count me in
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll be there!
>>
>> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 11:22 -0500, Robby Workman wrote:
>> > Yep, tonight's the night, and I'm actually going to show up!  :-)
>> >
>> > -RW
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > TUXaloosa mailing list
>> > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>> > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TUXaloosa mailing list
>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Nilson Cain
> University of Alabama        Office of Information Technology, Research
> nilson at gmail.com             (205) 292-5231
>
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From rw at rlworkman.net  Thu Jul  9 23:24:17 2009
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:24:17 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <20090709112205.41b8c485@liberty.rlwhome.lan>
References: <20090709112205.41b8c485@liberty.rlwhome.lan>
Message-ID: <20090709182417.34fbaa39@liberty.rlwhome.lan>

On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 11:22:05 -0500
Robby Workman <rworkman at tuxaloosa.org> wrote:

> Yep, tonight's the night, and I'm actually going to show up!  :-)


Well, Capture Studio is closed for whatever reason.  There's a 
building permit out front, so I guess they're building something.
That's too bad - I really wanted them to build a sandwich for me.

-RW
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From mark at markgreene.info  Fri Jul 10 00:36:09 2009
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:36:09 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Atlanta Linux Fest
Message-ID: <c8340fa0907091736s77f3a38ao4a8c6172ac35e2dc@mail.gmail.com>

Just incase some of you haven't seen this.

http://atlantalinuxfest.org/
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 16:07:30 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:07:30 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
Message-ID: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com>

i have been told by a couple of people (though not confirmed myself) that
Capture Cafe (where we hold our monthly meetings) is closing - or has closed
- or maybe they are just going to be Capture Studio and do away with the
Cafe portion. i remember that someone on the list knew/knows the folks that
own Capture; can the closing be verified? do we need to find another place
to conspire world domination via the dissemination of freedom?

erik
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From paulkilgo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 16:58:45 2009
From: paulkilgo at gmail.com (Paul Kilgo)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:58:45 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1248800325.29202.3.camel@demigod>

Well, if they are, then their web site doesn't show it. There's stuff on
the calendar but it looks like it was set up to repeat indefinitely.
They were closed when we last tried to meet, but we halfway assumed it
was due to all the construction going on.

--Paul

On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 11:07 -0500, E.H. wrote:
> i have been told by a couple of people (though not confirmed myself)
> that Capture Cafe (where we hold our monthly meetings) is closing - or
> has closed - or maybe they are just going to be Capture Studio and do
> away with the Cafe portion. i remember that someone on the list
> knew/knows the folks that own Capture; can the closing be verified? do
> we need to find another place to conspire world domination via the
> dissemination of freedom?
> 
> erik
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa


From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 17:10:36 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:10:36 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <1248800325.29202.3.camel@demigod>
References: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<1248800325.29202.3.camel@demigod>
Message-ID: <6f62da070907281010u4fa2a960n99132d2973b792b8@mail.gmail.com>

yeah looked at their website and facebook and myspace... none of them seem
too current.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, if they are, then their web site doesn't show it. There's stuff on
> the calendar but it looks like it was set up to repeat indefinitely.
> They were closed when we last tried to meet, but we halfway assumed it
> was due to all the construction going on.
>
> --Paul
>
> On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 11:07 -0500, E.H. wrote:
> > i have been told by a couple of people (though not confirmed myself)
> > that Capture Cafe (where we hold our monthly meetings) is closing - or
> > has closed - or maybe they are just going to be Capture Studio and do
> > away with the Cafe portion. i remember that someone on the list
> > knew/knows the folks that own Capture; can the closing be verified? do
> > we need to find another place to conspire world domination via the
> > dissemination of freedom?
> >
> > erik
> > _______________________________________________
> > TUXaloosa mailing list
> > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mark at markgreene.info  Tue Jul 28 19:20:41 2009
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:20:41 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <6f62da070907281010u4fa2a960n99132d2973b792b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com><1248800325.29202.3.camel@demigod><6f62da070907281010u4fa2a960n99132d2973b792b8@mail.gmail.com>
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I was in there last week for lunch. 

-----Original Message-----
From: "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:10:36 
To: <paulkilgo at gmail.com>; Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group<tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?


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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 22:33:31 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:33:31 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <2132655496-1248808843-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1523148900-@bxe1245.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com>
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perhaps just rumors then.
sorry

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Mark Greene <mark at markgreene.info> wrote:

> I was in there last week for lunch.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:10:36
> To: <paulkilgo at gmail.com>; Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group<
> tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
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From drew826 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 22:57:46 2009
From: drew826 at gmail.com (Andrew Browning)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:57:46 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> i have been told by a couple of people (though not confirmed myself) that
> Capture Cafe (where we hold our monthly meetings) is closing - or has closed
> - or maybe they are just going to be Capture Studio and do away with the
> Cafe portion. i remember that someone on the list knew/knows the folks that
> own Capture; can the closing be verified? do we need to find another place
> to conspire world domination via the dissemination of freedom?
>
> erik


I was informed by someone last week that the cafe part would be
closing, but that the studio would remain. This thread is the second
I've heard of the possible closing.

- Andrew Browning

From paulkilgo at gmail.com  Wed Jul 29 23:46:57 2009
From: paulkilgo at gmail.com (Paul Kilgo)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:57 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <35c945ad0907281557i3236e4bcvbfcb7bc7ef16760e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f62da070907280907m786f9597udc944f3822c09c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<35c945ad0907281557i3236e4bcvbfcb7bc7ef16760e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <afcb155f0907291646u36e3b35exfd62f05e5e2a24dd@mail.gmail.com>

I just checked it out and what Andrew says is true. There is a sign on the
door. :(

--Paul

On Jul 28, 2009 5:57 PM, "Andrew Browning" <drew826 at gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote: > i have
been told by a couple of p...
I was informed by someone last week that the cafe part would be
closing, but that the studio would remain. This thread is the second
I've heard of the possible closing.

- Andrew Browning

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From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org  Thu Jul 30 03:53:26 2009
From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:53:26 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:57 -0500
Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked it out and what Andrew says is true. There is a sign
> on the door. :(


Well, if that's the case, then we need to figure out a new
place to meet - preferably someplace that serves beer *and*
food.  :-)

-RW

From mark at markgreene.info  Thu Jul 30 03:55:14 2009
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:55:14 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
Message-ID: <548996142-1248926114-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1520806186-@bxe1245.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

We moved to Crimson Cafe last time and I enjoyed the enviroment. However I bet it won't be the same once students are back for the Fall. 
I am all for a place with beer and food. 
------Original Message------
From: Robby Workman
Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
Sent: Jul 29, 2009 10:53 PM

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:57 -0500
Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked it out and what Andrew says is true. There is a sign
> on the door. :(


Well, if that's the case, then we need to figure out a new
place to meet - preferably someplace that serves beer *and*
food.  :-)

-RW
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From paulkilgo at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 03:58:25 2009
From: paulkilgo at gmail.com (Paul Kilgo)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:58:25 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <548996142-1248926114-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1520806186-@bxe1245.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <548996142-1248926114-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1520806186-@bxe1245.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <afcb155f0907292058v5ebf2c10q1b0c3100b804ffd0@mail.gmail.com>

And I'll put in my young'un vote for a place that doesn't card on entry.

--Paul

On Jul 29, 2009 10:55 PM, "Mark Greene" <mark at markgreene.info> wrote:

We moved to Crimson Cafe last time and I enjoyed the enviroment. However I
bet it won't be the same once students are back for the Fall.
I am all for a place with beer and food.

------Original Message------ From: Robby Workman Sender:
tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org To: Tuscalo...

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From nilson at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 04:04:18 2009
From: nilson at gmail.com (Nilson Cain)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:04:18 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <afcb155f0907292058v5ebf2c10q1b0c3100b804ffd0@mail.gmail.com>
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	<afcb155f0907292058v5ebf2c10q1b0c3100b804ffd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3f9b16920907292104l4da2e2eemfd90a8e4b6d80b9a@mail.gmail.com>

We are somewhat lacking on good places for this type of thing unfortunately
:(

The only points we'd need to meet are these, I think: (feel free to
change/add)
Under 21 Allowed,
Free wifi
Quasi-sane noise level (we need to hear each other),

Other very nice things to have available are:
whiteboards
projectors

Certainly we don't want somewhere prohibitively expensive. There used to be
a place called Roly Polys on Temerson Square that was somewhat quaint, but I
don't know if it's been overtaken by bars or not.

-- 
Nilson Cain
University of Alabama        Office of Information Technology, Research
nilson at gmail.com             (205) 292-5231
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 14:07:28 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:07:28 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <3f9b16920907292104l4da2e2eemfd90a8e4b6d80b9a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <548996142-1248926114-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1520806186-@bxe1245.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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according to this article (*http://tinyurl.com/mzpspv* (Tuscaloosa News))
they are going to light up the strip with free wifi this fall. that would
certainly open up our options.
if i ever get around to calling at&t to get a connection run to the
warehouse we could use it for a byob (or byo$pizza_and_beer) meeting.
also, though they have neither pizza nor beer, Panerra (15th and McFarland)
has free wifi. im not a big fan of panerra, but i really like a free
connection.
just some thoughts
erik

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Nilson Cain <nilson at gmail.com> wrote:

> We are somewhat lacking on good places for this type of thing unfortunately
> :(
>
> The only points we'd need to meet are these, I think: (feel free to
> change/add)
> Under 21 Allowed,
> Free wifi
> Quasi-sane noise level (we need to hear each other),
>
> Other very nice things to have available are:
> whiteboards
> projectors
>
> Certainly we don't want somewhere prohibitively expensive. There used to be
> a place called Roly Polys on Temerson Square that was somewhat quaint, but I
> don't know if it's been overtaken by bars or not.
>
> --
> Nilson Cain
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From paulkilgo at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 14:46:53 2009
From: paulkilgo at gmail.com (Paul Kilgo)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:46:53 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
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Strip Teas and Coffee would probably work as well as Capture did, and it
even has sofas. No beer though. Probably lots of students later.

Crimson Cafe has all of the requirements, but a risk of student overrunning.

Panera has the wifi, but plays jazz kind of loudly.

On Jul 30, 2009 9:07 AM, "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

according to this article (*http://tinyurl.com/mzpspv* (Tuscaloosa News))
they are going to light up the strip with free wifi this fall. that would
certainly open up our options.
if i ever get around to calling at&t to get a connection run to the
warehouse we could use it for a byob (or byo$pizza_and_beer) meeting.
also, though they have neither pizza nor beer, Panerra (15th and McFarland)
has free wifi. im not a big fan of panerra, but i really like a free
connection.
just some thoughts
erik

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From allen at ua.edu  Thu Jul 30 14:48:17 2009
From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:48:17 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
Message-ID: <89BEA3243E5B0C4BB7AABB377C567D6BE4492D5C@MAIL1.ua-net.ua.edu>

Even though my last few experiences there have been less than positive, Crimson Cafe fits the bill.  Under 21 allowed, free wifi, coffee, food, and alcohol on Thursday-Saturday.  Thursday is party night, though, so it is likely to be chaotic to get in and out of there for the non-university people.
That's about it for the coffee shop options, aside from that glass, steel, and fluorescent light monstrosity that used to be called "Badass" across the street.  The background noise level in there is usually really bad, though.

Allen B.


----- Original Message -----
From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org <tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org>
To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group <tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
Sent: Wed Jul 29 22:53:26 2009
Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:57 -0500
Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just checked it out and what Andrew says is true. There is a sign
> on the door. :(


Well, if that's the case, then we need to figure out a new
place to meet - preferably someplace that serves beer *and*
food.  :-)

-RW
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From cameron.purvis at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 15:04:27 2009
From: cameron.purvis at gmail.com (Cameron Purvis)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:04:27 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
In-Reply-To: <89BEA3243E5B0C4BB7AABB377C567D6BE4492D5C@MAIL1.ua-net.ua.edu>
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Agreed on the Strip Tease - it's loud... but couches are keen.  Crimson
worked OK last time.  How about we just run with Crimson for the moment and
see how that works?



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Beddingfield, Allen <allen at ua.edu> wrote:

> Even though my last few experiences there have been less than positive,
> Crimson Cafe fits the bill.  Under 21 allowed, free wifi, coffee, food, and
> alcohol on Thursday-Saturday.  Thursday is party night, though, so it is
> likely to be chaotic to get in and out of there for the non-university
> people.
> That's about it for the coffee shop options, aside from that glass, steel,
> and fluorescent light monstrosity that used to be called "Badass" across the
> street.  The background noise level in there is usually really bad, though.
>
> Allen B.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org <tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org>
> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group <tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
> Sent: Wed Jul 29 22:53:26 2009
> Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:57 -0500
> Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just checked it out and what Andrew says is true. There is a sign
> > on the door. :(
>
>
> Well, if that's the case, then we need to figure out a new
> place to meet - preferably someplace that serves beer *and*
> food.  :-)
>
> -RW
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 15:22:41 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:22:41 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
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Crimson Cafe.... going once (or is it twice now?)
ill +1 CC

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Cameron Purvis
<cameron.purvis at gmail.com>wrote:

> Agreed on the Strip Tease - it's loud... but couches are keen.  Crimson
> worked OK last time.  How about we just run with Crimson for the moment and
> see how that works?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Beddingfield, Allen <allen at ua.edu> wrote:
>
>> Even though my last few experiences there have been less than positive,
>> Crimson Cafe fits the bill.  Under 21 allowed, free wifi, coffee, food, and
>> alcohol on Thursday-Saturday.  Thursday is party night, though, so it is
>> likely to be chaotic to get in and out of there for the non-university
>> people.
>> That's about it for the coffee shop options, aside from that glass, steel,
>> and fluorescent light monstrosity that used to be called "Badass" across the
>> street.  The background noise level in there is usually really bad, though.
>>
>> Allen B.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org <tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org>
>> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group <tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
>> Sent: Wed Jul 29 22:53:26 2009
>> Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:57 -0500
>> Paul Kilgo <paulkilgo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I just checked it out and what Andrew says is true. There is a sign
>> > on the door. :(
>>
>>
>> Well, if that's the case, then we need to figure out a new
>> place to meet - preferably someplace that serves beer *and*
>> food.  :-)
>>
>> -RW
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From drew826 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 15:24:21 2009
From: drew826 at gmail.com (Andrew Browning)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:24:21 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Capture Cafe closing?
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Crimson Cafe.... going once (or is it twice now?)
> ill +1 CC

I'll throw support behind CC for now, but I have a suspicion that once
students return, the place will be too full or too loud to be a decent
meeting spot.

- Andrew

From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 16:48:06 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:48:06 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
Message-ID: <6f62da070907300948g17b3be8eu246407990194b163@mail.gmail.com>

i have a fresh ubuntu (9.04) server install here that won't accept ssh
connections. i had it (openssh) installed when i installed the OS. not sure
if it has to do with the way ubuntu auto-configures the sshd or if im just
stupid today. i changed /etc/ssh/sshd.config so that it was bound to the
servers static ip 192.168.0.5 (it was bound to 0.0.0.0 - which looked
funny).
i don't know much about ssh, so if there's more info to be had let me know
so i can post it.
any help appreciated.

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From paulkilgo at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 16:52:49 2009
From: paulkilgo at gmail.com (Paul Kilgo)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:52:49 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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I notice you say openssh but the ubuntu sshd package is actually
openssh-server. Did you install this package?

That's the bare minimum to get sshd up and running in my experience.

On Jul 30, 2009 11:48 AM, "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

i have a fresh ubuntu (9.04) server install here that won't accept ssh
connections. i had it (openssh) installed when i installed the OS. not sure
if it has to do with the way ubuntu auto-configures the sshd or if im just
stupid today. i changed /etc/ssh/sshd.config so that it was bound to the
servers static ip 192.168.0.5 (it was bound to 0.0.0.0 - which looked
funny).
i don't know much about ssh, so if there's more info to be had let me know
so i can post it.
any help appreciated.

erik

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From drew826 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 16:53:52 2009
From: drew826 at gmail.com (Andrew Browning)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:53:52 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:48 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> i have a fresh ubuntu (9.04) server install here that won't accept ssh
> connections. i had it (openssh) installed when i installed the OS. not sure
> if it has to do with the way ubuntu auto-configures the sshd or if im just
> stupid today. i changed /etc/ssh/sshd.config so that it was bound to the
> servers static ip 192.168.0.5 (it was bound to 0.0.0.0 - which looked
> funny).

Being bound to 0.0.0.0 usually means it will listen on all interfaces
for connections. As long as 192.168.0.5 is the only IP address you'll
use to connect to this machine, there's harm in changing the listen
interface as you did.

> i don't know much about ssh, so if there's more info to be had let me know
> so i can post it.
> any help appreciated.

Have you verified that the ssh daemon is running? I'm not familiar
enough with Ubuntu to know where it keeps startup scripts, but you can
check for sshd by running `ps uax | grep sshd` or `netstat -ant | grep
192.168.0.5:22` from a terminal.

- Andrew

From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 16:59:51 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:59:51 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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paul: i did mean openssh-server
andrew: 192.168.0.5 is the only interface, should i change it back? ps says
that /usr/sbin/ssh is running. i can log into an ssh session from the
console, but not from putty.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Andrew Browning <drew826 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:48 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > i have a fresh ubuntu (9.04) server install here that won't accept ssh
> > connections. i had it (openssh) installed when i installed the OS. not
> sure
> > if it has to do with the way ubuntu auto-configures the sshd or if im
> just
> > stupid today. i changed /etc/ssh/sshd.config so that it was bound to the
> > servers static ip 192.168.0.5 (it was bound to 0.0.0.0 - which looked
> > funny).
>
> Being bound to 0.0.0.0 usually means it will listen on all interfaces
> for connections. As long as 192.168.0.5 is the only IP address you'll
> use to connect to this machine, there's harm in changing the listen
> interface as you did.
>
> > i don't know much about ssh, so if there's more info to be had let me
> know
> > so i can post it.
> > any help appreciated.
>
> Have you verified that the ssh daemon is running? I'm not familiar
> enough with Ubuntu to know where it keeps startup scripts, but you can
> check for sshd by running `ps uax | grep sshd` or `netstat -ant | grep
> 192.168.0.5:22` from a terminal.
>
> - Andrew
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From drew826 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 17:17:54 2009
From: drew826 at gmail.com (Andrew Browning)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:17:54 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> andrew: 192.168.0.5 is the only interface, should i change it back?

There's no real need to do so, unless you plan on changing the IP
address in the future and don't want to have to edit the configuration
file. I tend to keep my config file directives at default values
unless there's a compelling reason to change them, but there's nothing
wrong with specifying a particular interface to use (in fact, it's
encouraged in certain situations).

> ps says
> that /usr/sbin/ssh is running. i can log into an ssh session from the
> console, but not from putty.

Did you mean sshd? On the distros I'm familiar with, /usr/bin/ssh is
the client and /usr/bin/sshd is the daemon. However, since you said
you can log in to an ssh session from a console, I'll assume that
means that sshd is in fact running. Are you logging in from a console
on the same Ubuntu machine, or from a different one? If you can log in
locally but not from a remote machine, then your Ubuntu machine might
not be accepting outside connections.

You can check to see if your Ubuntu machine is listening on the sshd
port with telnet. From your Windows machine, open a command prompt
(Start->Run->cmd) and at the terminal, type
"telnet 192.168.0.5 22" without the quotes (note there is a space, not
a colon, between the IP address and the port). If you get a response
along the lines of "Could not open connection...," then the Ubuntu
machine _is not_ accepting outside connections on that port. If you
instead get some kind of banner, along the lines of
"SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.2," then the Ubuntu machine _is_ accepting outside
connections on that port.

If your Ubuntu machine is not accepting outside connections, then it
might have a default firewall blocking port 22, or it might be using
the hosts.allow/hosts.deny files.

The files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny specify which hosts are
allowed to connect to your Ubuntu machine and one which ports. If your
/etc/hosts.deny file has a line that reads something like "ALL: ALL:
DENY," then you'll need to make sure that your /etc/hosts.allow file
has a line that reads something like "sshd : ALL : allow" (assuming
you're comfortable with all local network traffic being able to
connect to your Ubuntu machine on TCP port 22). You can change the ALL
to a specific hostname or subnet if you desire to do so. If your
/etc/hosts.deny file is empty, then it pretty much allows all traffic
through, so it might be a firewall issue instead.

I assume that Ubuntu uses iptables for a firewall;  you can view its
current configuration with (as root):
#iptables -L -n
If the INPUT chain lists a REJECT line for tcp dpt:22, then the
firewall (if running) is blocking port TCP port 22, and you'll need to
change that. If that's the case, respond back and we'll help with
that.

From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 17:48:32 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:48:32 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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reply in-line

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Andrew Browning <drew826 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> > andrew: 192.168.0.5 is the only interface, should i change it back?
>
> There's no real need to do so, unless you plan on changing the IP
> address in the future and don't want to have to edit the configuration
> file. I tend to keep my config file directives at default values
> unless there's a compelling reason to change them, but there's nothing
> wrong with specifying a particular interface to use (in fact, it's
> encouraged in certain situations).
>
> > ps says
> > that /usr/sbin/ssh is running. i can log into an ssh session from the
> > console, but not from putty.
>
> Did you mean sshd? On the distros I'm familiar with, /usr/bin/ssh is
> the client and /usr/bin/sshd is the daemon. However, since you said
> you can log in to an ssh session from a console, I'll assume that
> means that sshd is in fact running.


it is. my mistake.

Are you logging in from a console
> on the same Ubuntu machine, or from a different one?


same machine.


> If you can log in
> locally but not from a remote machine, then your Ubuntu machine might
> not be accepting outside connections.
>
> You can check to see if your Ubuntu machine is listening on the sshd
> port with telnet. From your Windows machine, open a command prompt
> (Start->Run->cmd) and at the terminal, type
> "telnet 192.168.0.5 22" without the quotes (note there is a space, not
> a colon, between the IP address and the port). If you get a response
> along the lines of "Could not open connection...," then the Ubuntu
> machine _is not_ accepting outside connections on that port. If you
> instead get some kind of banner, along the lines of
> "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.2," then the Ubuntu machine _is_ accepting outside
> connections on that port.


i can telnet in and get a banner


>
> If your Ubuntu machine is not accepting outside connections, then it
> might have a default firewall blocking port 22, or it might be using
> the hosts.allow/hosts.deny files.

The files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny specify which hosts are
> allowed to connect to your Ubuntu machine and one which ports. If your
> /etc/hosts.deny file has a line that reads something like "ALL: ALL:
> DENY," then you'll need to make sure that your /etc/hosts.allow file
> has a line that reads something like "sshd : ALL : allow" (assuming
> you're comfortable with all local network traffic being able to
> connect to your Ubuntu machine on TCP port 22). You can change the ALL
> to a specific hostname or subnet if you desire to do so. If your
> /etc/hosts.deny file is empty, then it pretty much allows all traffic
> through, so it might be a firewall issue instead.


both hosts files are empty


>
>
> I assume that Ubuntu uses iptables for a firewall;  you can view its
> current configuration with (as root):
> #iptables -L -n
> If the INPUT chain lists a REJECT line for tcp dpt:22, then the
> firewall (if running) is blocking port TCP port 22, and you'll need to
> change that. If that's the case, respond back and we'll help with
> that.


there are no iptables rules.

thank you for the great attempts though!

erik
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 18:06:54 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:06:54 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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update:
i can log in using putty on my laptop running windows (xp - the workstation
is running vista ::ducks::).
SO...
why one machine works and not the other?
both are wireless (not that that should matter)

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM, E.H. <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> reply in-line
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Andrew Browning <drew826 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:59 AM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > andrew: 192.168.0.5 is the only interface, should i change it back?
>>
>> There's no real need to do so, unless you plan on changing the IP
>> address in the future and don't want to have to edit the configuration
>> file. I tend to keep my config file directives at default values
>> unless there's a compelling reason to change them, but there's nothing
>> wrong with specifying a particular interface to use (in fact, it's
>> encouraged in certain situations).
>>
>> > ps says
>> > that /usr/sbin/ssh is running. i can log into an ssh session from the
>> > console, but not from putty.
>>
>> Did you mean sshd? On the distros I'm familiar with, /usr/bin/ssh is
>> the client and /usr/bin/sshd is the daemon. However, since you said
>> you can log in to an ssh session from a console, I'll assume that
>> means that sshd is in fact running.
>
>
> it is. my mistake.
>
> Are you logging in from a console
>> on the same Ubuntu machine, or from a different one?
>
>
> same machine.
>
>
>> If you can log in
>> locally but not from a remote machine, then your Ubuntu machine might
>> not be accepting outside connections.
>>
>> You can check to see if your Ubuntu machine is listening on the sshd
>> port with telnet. From your Windows machine, open a command prompt
>> (Start->Run->cmd) and at the terminal, type
>> "telnet 192.168.0.5 22" without the quotes (note there is a space, not
>> a colon, between the IP address and the port). If you get a response
>> along the lines of "Could not open connection...," then the Ubuntu
>> machine _is not_ accepting outside connections on that port. If you
>> instead get some kind of banner, along the lines of
>> "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.2," then the Ubuntu machine _is_ accepting outside
>> connections on that port.
>
>
> i can telnet in and get a banner
>
>
>>
>> If your Ubuntu machine is not accepting outside connections, then it
>> might have a default firewall blocking port 22, or it might be using
>> the hosts.allow/hosts.deny files.
>
> The files /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny specify which hosts are
>> allowed to connect to your Ubuntu machine and one which ports. If your
>> /etc/hosts.deny file has a line that reads something like "ALL: ALL:
>> DENY," then you'll need to make sure that your /etc/hosts.allow file
>> has a line that reads something like "sshd : ALL : allow" (assuming
>> you're comfortable with all local network traffic being able to
>> connect to your Ubuntu machine on TCP port 22). You can change the ALL
>> to a specific hostname or subnet if you desire to do so. If your
>> /etc/hosts.deny file is empty, then it pretty much allows all traffic
>> through, so it might be a firewall issue instead.
>
>
> both hosts files are empty
>
>
>>
>>
>> I assume that Ubuntu uses iptables for a firewall;  you can view its
>> current configuration with (as root):
>> #iptables -L -n
>> If the INPUT chain lists a REJECT line for tcp dpt:22, then the
>> firewall (if running) is blocking port TCP port 22, and you'll need to
>> change that. If that's the case, respond back and we'll help with
>> that.
>
>
> there are no iptables rules.
>
> thank you for the great attempts though!
>
> erik
>
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From drew826 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 18:07:02 2009
From: drew826 at gmail.com (Andrew Browning)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:07:02 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Andrew Browning <drew826 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You can check to see if your Ubuntu machine is listening on the sshd
>> port with telnet. From your Windows machine, open a command prompt
>> (Start->Run->cmd) and at the terminal, type
>> "telnet 192.168.0.5 22" without the quotes (note there is a space, not
>> a colon, between the IP address and the port). If you get a response
>> along the lines of "Could not open connection...," then the Ubuntu
>> machine _is not_ accepting outside connections on that port. If you
>> instead get some kind of banner, along the lines of
>> "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.2," then the Ubuntu machine _is_ accepting outside
>> connections on that port.
>
> i can telnet in and get a banner

Okay, new strategy. It seems the Ubuntu machine is accepting
connections, but you haven't been able to successfully authenticate.
When you try to connect with Putty, are you presented with the "login
as:" prompt? If so, then you're mistyping your username/password
(seems very unlikely), your user isn't allowed to connect via ssh from
remote machines (and I'm not sure how that would be set), or Putty and
your Ubuntu machine aren't speaking the same SSH dialect.

If you don't receive the "login as:" prompt, then Putty either isn't
finding the machine at the IP address and port specified (make sure
that it's set to port 22 when you try to log in) or it's failing to
understand the initial SSH communication.

All of these cases seem pretty weird, so I hope it's something simple
like the Putty default port being changed to Telnet. Otherwise, you
might need to go through Putty's Configuration and look in the
Connection section for anything odd.

From drew826 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 18:13:20 2009
From: drew826 at gmail.com (Andrew Browning)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:13:20 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:06 PM, E.H.<leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> update:
> i can log in using putty on my laptop running windows (xp - the workstation
> is running vista ::ducks::).
> SO...
> why one machine works and not the other?
> both are wireless (not that that should matter)

I don't have much experience with Vista, but it might for some reason
have a firewall that prevents the Putty executable from making
outbound connections on TCP port 22. I would assume that the firewall
settings are within Control Panel, or whatever the Vista equivalent
might be called.

From rw at rlworkman.net  Thu Jul 30 18:21:34 2009
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:21:34 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
In-Reply-To: <6f62da070907301106l379b6b0bv4e3c9044c5f8d5ee@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:06:54 -0500
"E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> update:
> i can log in using putty on my laptop running windows (xp - the
> workstation is running vista ::ducks::).
> SO...
> why one machine works and not the other?
> both are wireless (not that that should matter)


Hrm, are you sure that it doesn't work, or is there perhaps
just a *long* delay?  (wait for a while to be sure)

If it's just a delay, then sshd is trying to do a reverse
lookup on the ip address, which is failing, so it's timing
out before the connection proceeds.

If that's what it is, then we'll look into fixing that.

-RW
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 18:35:27 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:35:27 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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putty exits after ~10 seconds with "Network error: Connection has timed out"
i tried killing my firewall and still cannot connect.
ill boot into ubuntu and see how that goes.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Robby Workman <rw at rlworkman.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:06:54 -0500
> "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > update:
> > i can log in using putty on my laptop running windows (xp - the
> > workstation is running vista ::ducks::).
> > SO...
> > why one machine works and not the other?
> > both are wireless (not that that should matter)
>
>
> Hrm, are you sure that it doesn't work, or is there perhaps
> just a *long* delay?  (wait for a while to be sure)
>
> If it's just a delay, then sshd is trying to do a reverse
> lookup on the ip address, which is failing, so it's timing
> out before the connection proceeds.
>
> If that's what it is, then we'll look into fixing that.
>
> -RW
>
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From rw at rlworkman.net  Thu Jul 30 18:45:42 2009
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:45:42 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:35:27 -0500
"E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> putty exits after ~10 seconds with "Network error: Connection has
> timed out" i tried killing my firewall and still cannot connect.
> ill boot into ubuntu and see how that goes.


Okay, that's interesting.  From the same client machine, do a ping
to the sshd server box and see if it gets there and a reply.

If it does, then it's got to be putty-specific, but I don't know
enough about putty to even guess from there.

-RW
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 18:54:20 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:54:20 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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in ubuntu on the same machine (same ip and mac) i get through with no
problem.
damned winders.

thanks for all the help... i think ill just continue to work from ubuntu for
now.

erik

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Robby Workman <rw at rlworkman.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:35:27 -0500
> "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > putty exits after ~10 seconds with "Network error: Connection has
> > timed out" i tried killing my firewall and still cannot connect.
> > ill boot into ubuntu and see how that goes.
>
>
> Okay, that's interesting.  From the same client machine, do a ping
> to the sshd server box and see if it gets there and a reply.
>
> If it does, then it's got to be putty-specific, but I don't know
> enough about putty to even guess from there.
>
> -RW
>
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From drew826 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 19:23:05 2009
From: drew826 at gmail.com (Andrew Browning)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:23:05 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Atlanta Linux Fest
In-Reply-To: <c8340fa0907091736s77f3a38ao4a8c6172ac35e2dc@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Mark Greene<mark at markgreene.info> wrote:
> Just incase some of you haven't seen this.
> http://atlantalinuxfest.org/

Just got an update about Hotel Information for this event.

The Marriott Atlanta Northwest is holding a block of rooms for the
Atlanta Linux Fest.

    * $69.00 single/double
    * $79.00 triple
    * $89.00 quad
    * rate does not include taxes

Single/double/triple/quad refers to number beds in hotel speak.

There is a limited number of rooms at this rate and this rate will
only be held until the 18th of August so please make your reservations
soon. After the 18th they will release the rooms and the rate goes
back up to the seasonal rate.

The hotel will also provide a shuttle from the hotel to the IBM
Facility and back. The times for the shuttle will be given to you upon
check-in.

http://atlantalinuxfest.org/node/84

From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 19:25:25 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:25:25 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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ok i lied. i can't leave well enough alone.
i can ping to the box.
i tried a different windows client (absolutetelnet) and still get a timeout
error.

ill chalk it up to vista acting like a baby.

erik

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:54 PM, E.H. <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> in ubuntu on the same machine (same ip and mac) i get through with no
> problem.
> damned winders.
>
> thanks for all the help... i think ill just continue to work from ubuntu
> for now.
>
> erik
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Robby Workman <rw at rlworkman.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:35:27 -0500
>> "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > putty exits after ~10 seconds with "Network error: Connection has
>> > timed out" i tried killing my firewall and still cannot connect.
>> > ill boot into ubuntu and see how that goes.
>>
>>
>> Okay, that's interesting.  From the same client machine, do a ping
>> to the sshd server box and see if it gets there and a reply.
>>
>> If it does, then it's got to be putty-specific, but I don't know
>> enough about putty to even guess from there.
>>
>> -RW
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 22:36:35 2009
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E.H.)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:36:35 -0500
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
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so i went to the dentist this afternoon and came back to a frozen vista
(nothing out of the ordinary there), and now it works. apparently frozen
boxen are how microsoft fix problems these days.

thanks again to all who helped

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:25 PM, E.H. <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> ok i lied. i can't leave well enough alone.
> i can ping to the box.
> i tried a different windows client (absolutetelnet) and still get a timeout
> error.
>
> ill chalk it up to vista acting like a baby.
>
> erik
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:54 PM, E.H. <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> in ubuntu on the same machine (same ip and mac) i get through with no
>> problem.
>> damned winders.
>>
>> thanks for all the help... i think ill just continue to work from ubuntu
>> for now.
>>
>> erik
>>
>>  On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Robby Workman <rw at rlworkman.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:35:27 -0500
>>> "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > putty exits after ~10 seconds with "Network error: Connection has
>>> > timed out" i tried killing my firewall and still cannot connect.
>>> > ill boot into ubuntu and see how that goes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, that's interesting.  From the same client machine, do a ping
>>> to the sshd server box and see if it gets there and a reply.
>>>
>>> If it does, then it's got to be putty-specific, but I don't know
>>> enough about putty to even guess from there.
>>>
>>> -RW
>>>
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From mark at markgreene.info  Thu Jul 30 22:49:09 2009
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:49:09 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems
In-Reply-To: <6f62da070907301536i32acc025lbe570553cfd1a02f@mail.gmail.com>
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Sounds like the reboot is what solved it (also a popular fix for most MS products). 

-----Original Message-----
From: "E.H." <leprkhn at gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:36:35 
To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group<tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] ssh problems


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