From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org  Mon Nov  3 05:44:17 2008
From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman)
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 23:44:17 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting this month
Message-ID: <20081102234417.11e74ffd@liberty.rlwhome>

Okay, so what's the plan?
Are we going to meet this Thursday or on the 20th?

In case everyone hasn't looked, I've done a bit of work on the website,
so check it out and see what you think.

-RW

From mark at markgreene.info  Mon Nov  3 06:02:14 2008
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:02:14 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting this month
Message-ID: <745716579-1225692132-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-657015495-@bxe284.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I'm up for meeting this Thursday if anyone else wants to. 

------Original Message------
From: Robby Workman
Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
Sent: Nov 2, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting this month

Okay, so what's the plan?
Are we going to meet this Thursday or on the 20th?

In case everyone hasn't looked, I've done a bit of work on the website,
so check it out and see what you think.

-RW
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From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org  Mon Nov  3 22:54:09 2008
From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:54:09 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting this month
In-Reply-To: <745716579-1225692132-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-657015495-@bxe284.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <745716579-1225692132-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-657015495-@bxe284.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <20081103225409.1f0e9fbc@tuxaloosa.org>

I should be good for this Thursday night as well.

Michael


On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:02:14 +0000
"Mark Greene" <mark at markgreene.info> wrote:

> I'm up for meeting this Thursday if anyone else wants to. 
> 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Robby Workman
> Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> Sent: Nov 2, 2008 11:44 PM
> Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting this month
> 
> Okay, so what's the plan?
> Are we going to meet this Thursday or on the 20th?
> 
> In case everyone hasn't looked, I've done a bit of work on the
> website, so check it out and see what you think.
> 
> -RW
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
> 
> 
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> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa


From rw at rlworkman.net  Tue Nov  4 03:57:29 2008
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:57:29 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting this month
In-Reply-To: <20081103225409.1f0e9fbc@tuxaloosa.org>
References: <745716579-1225692132-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-657015495-@bxe284.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<20081103225409.1f0e9fbc@tuxaloosa.org>
Message-ID: <20081103215729.37e593d3@liberty.rlwhome>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:54:09 +0000
Michael Ramm <michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org> wrote:

> I should be good for this Thursday night as well.


Thursday's good for me as well.  I'll note it on the website then.

-RW
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From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org  Mon Nov  3 23:06:00 2008
From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:06:00 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Web Access to mail
Message-ID: <20081103230600.7244793d@tuxaloosa.org>

I was wondering if there was any web access to our mail on
tuxaloosa.org?

Thanks,
Michael

From rw at rlworkman.net  Tue Nov  4 04:44:55 2008
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:44:55 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Web Access to mail
In-Reply-To: <20081103230600.7244793d@tuxaloosa.org>
References: <20081103230600.7244793d@tuxaloosa.org>
Message-ID: <20081103224455.49b5e006@liberty.rlwhome>

On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:06:00 +0000
Michael Ramm <michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org> wrote:

> I was wondering if there was any web access to our mail on
> tuxaloosa.org?


No, and after looking at the options available, I don't think there
will be.  However, I can easily direct it to a different address if
you'd like (e.g. @gmail.com)

-RW
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 17:44:13 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:44:13 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting this month
In-Reply-To: <20081102234417.11e74ffd@liberty.rlwhome>
References: <20081102234417.11e74ffd@liberty.rlwhome>
Message-ID: <491089ED.6090307@gmail.com>

this thursday is a little hectic for me, so i may not be there. this 
should, by no means, keep y'all from meeting. just means that i might 
not be there.

e hanson

Robby Workman wrote:
> Okay, so what's the plan?
> Are we going to meet this Thursday or on the 20th?
>
> In case everyone hasn't looked, I've done a bit of work on the website,
> so check it out and see what you think.
>
> -RW
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
>   


From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 19:13:38 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:13:38 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] OT: annoying cd/dvd drive
Message-ID: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>

i have a dell box whose cd/dvd drive opens randomly. it's very annoying. 
has anyone ever had this happen? is there a way to make it stop?
to note: it doesn't happen when the drive is in use (and so does not 
inhibit proper function). also, it happens sometimes before an OS is 
loaded up (ie while looking at the bios or sitting on a  boot menu), so 
i don't think that it is linux's fault.
in short, i would like it to stop opening itself.
thoughts?

From studean at comicnet.net  Tue Nov  4 19:24:28 2008
From: studean at comicnet.net (Stewart Dean)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:24:28 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] OT: annoying cd/dvd drive
In-Reply-To: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>
References: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4910A16C.7040400@comicnet.net>

If not for the "in use" bit, I might be tempted to think that the switch 
may be broken.  If the button on the faceplate is broken and the switch 
is significantly loose, there might be an issue there.  Try removing the 
faceplate on the drive and see if it still happens...

E Hanson wrote:
> i have a dell box whose cd/dvd drive opens randomly. it's very 
> annoying. has anyone ever had this happen? is there a way to make it 
> stop?
> to note: it doesn't happen when the drive is in use (and so does not 
> inhibit proper function). also, it happens sometimes before an OS is 
> loaded up (ie while looking at the bios or sitting on a  boot menu), 
> so i don't think that it is linux's fault.
> in short, i would like it to stop opening itself.
> thoughts?
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>

From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 20:02:18 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:02:18 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] OT: annoying cd/dvd drive
In-Reply-To: <4910A16C.7040400@comicnet.net>
References: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com> <4910A16C.7040400@comicnet.net>
Message-ID: <4910AA4A.2070800@gmail.com>

that makes sense. dirty/poor connection with the eject button. i'll have 
to give that a look when i get a chance to open it up.

Stewart Dean wrote:
> If not for the "in use" bit, I might be tempted to think that the 
> switch may be broken.  If the button on the faceplate is broken and 
> the switch is significantly loose, there might be an issue there.  Try 
> removing the faceplate on the drive and see if it still happens...
>
> E Hanson wrote:
>> i have a dell box whose cd/dvd drive opens randomly. it's very 
>> annoying. has anyone ever had this happen? is there a way to make it 
>> stop?
>> to note: it doesn't happen when the drive is in use (and so does not 
>> inhibit proper function). also, it happens sometimes before an OS is 
>> loaded up (ie while looking at the bios or sitting on a  boot menu), 
>> so i don't think that it is linux's fault.
>> in short, i would like it to stop opening itself.
>> thoughts?
>> _______________________________________________
>> TUXaloosa mailing list
>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>


From rw at rlworkman.net  Tue Nov  4 20:08:11 2008
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:08:11 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] OT: annoying cd/dvd drive
In-Reply-To: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>
References: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081104140811.6cdeb999@liberty.rlwhome>

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:13:38 -0600
E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> i have a dell box whose cd/dvd drive opens randomly. it's very
> annoying. has anyone ever had this happen? is there a way to make it
> stop? to note: it doesn't happen when the drive is in use (and so
> does not inhibit proper function). also, it happens sometimes before
> an OS is loaded up (ie while looking at the bios or sitting on a
> boot menu), so i don't think that it is linux's fault.
> in short, i would like it to stop opening itself.
> thoughts?


I recall a thread on LKML about that, but I don't remember details.
Might be worth a googling :)

-RW
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 20:12:53 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:12:53 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] location of xorg.conf on fedora?
Message-ID: <4910ACC5.10703@gmail.com>

on a whim today i thought i'd try the new fedora 10 release candidate on 
my fun box. usually when i install a new distro on this box (i have 
three 80G partitions + swap), they never detect my monitor correctly (i 
think that this is because it is connected through an iogear KVM), and i 
wind up with very low resolution options.
my solution to this is to mount up /dev/sda2 (my slackware partition) 
and copy the xorg.conf that slackware (and only slackware i've found) 
properly configures, to the new distro's /etc/X11/.
it doesn't look like fedora puts their xorg.conf in the place that i am 
used to finding it.
so where is it?
does this different configuration mean that copying that known working 
xorg.conf to fedora is going to work?

From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 20:31:01 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:31:01 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] OT: annoying cd/dvd drive
In-Reply-To: <20081104140811.6cdeb999@liberty.rlwhome>
References: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>
	<20081104140811.6cdeb999@liberty.rlwhome>
Message-ID: <4910B105.6070901@gmail.com>

and i'll be damned if googling for "cd tray opens" doesn't bring an 
avalanche of windows user woes all "solved" by running a virus scanner. 
and after that you get all the remote-admin jokeware stuff that allows 
some to open a cd tray remotely.
these are all out since it happens preboot too.
i thought that maybe updating the firmware might do the trick (the dell 
website HAS firmware updates for this drive), but again - no windows to 
run that darned exe.

Robby Workman wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:13:38 -0600
> E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> i have a dell box whose cd/dvd drive opens randomly. it's very
>> annoying. has anyone ever had this happen? is there a way to make it
>> stop? to note: it doesn't happen when the drive is in use (and so
>> does not inhibit proper function). also, it happens sometimes before
>> an OS is loaded up (ie while looking at the bios or sitting on a
>> boot menu), so i don't think that it is linux's fault.
>> in short, i would like it to stop opening itself.
>> thoughts?
>>     
>
>
> I recall a thread on LKML about that, but I don't remember details.
> Might be worth a googling :)
>
> -RW
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>   


From rw at rlworkman.net  Tue Nov  4 20:52:34 2008
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:52:34 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] OT: annoying cd/dvd drive
In-Reply-To: <4910B105.6070901@gmail.com>
References: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>
	<20081104140811.6cdeb999@liberty.rlwhome>
	<4910B105.6070901@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081104145234.2b6008b1@liberty.rlwhome>

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:31:01 -0600
E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> and i'll be damned if googling for "cd tray opens" doesn't bring an 
> avalanche of windows user woes all "solved" by running a virus
> scanner. and after that you get all the remote-admin jokeware stuff
> that allows some to open a cd tray remotely.
> these are all out since it happens preboot too.
> i thought that maybe updating the firmware might do the trick (the
> dell website HAS firmware updates for this drive), but again - no
> windows to run that darned exe.


I was thinking about this thread:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/978540
but it doesn't seem relevant, so nevermind :/

-RW
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From rw at rlworkman.net  Tue Nov  4 20:53:50 2008
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:53:50 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] location of xorg.conf on fedora?
In-Reply-To: <4910ACC5.10703@gmail.com>
References: <4910ACC5.10703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081104145350.03384a18@liberty.rlwhome>

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:12:53 -0600
E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> on a whim today i thought i'd try the new fedora 10 release candidate
> on my fun box. usually when i install a new distro on this box (i
> have three 80G partitions + swap), they never detect my monitor
> correctly (i think that this is because it is connected through an
> iogear KVM), and i wind up with very low resolution options.
> my solution to this is to mount up /dev/sda2 (my slackware partition) 
> and copy the xorg.conf that slackware (and only slackware i've found) 
> properly configures, to the new distro's /etc/X11/.
> it doesn't look like fedora puts their xorg.conf in the place that i
> am used to finding it.
> so where is it?
> does this different configuration mean that copying that known
> working xorg.conf to fedora is going to work?


Fedora is bleeding edge, so they're almost surely taking advantage of
the new "autoconfiguration" of X via HAL or {Policy,Device,Console}Kit
with Xorg 7.4.  IOW, there isn't a config file, because it's not needed.

-RW
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 20:54:46 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:54:46 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] OT: annoying cd/dvd drive
In-Reply-To: <20081104145234.2b6008b1@liberty.rlwhome>
References: <49109EE2.5020401@gmail.com>	<20081104140811.6cdeb999@liberty.rlwhome>	<4910B105.6070901@gmail.com>
	<20081104145234.2b6008b1@liberty.rlwhome>
Message-ID: <4910B696.7040802@gmail.com>

yeah, i saw that one in my too; but, as you said, it's not relevant.

Robby Workman wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:31:01 -0600
> E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> and i'll be damned if googling for "cd tray opens" doesn't bring an 
>> avalanche of windows user woes all "solved" by running a virus
>> scanner. and after that you get all the remote-admin jokeware stuff
>> that allows some to open a cd tray remotely.
>> these are all out since it happens preboot too.
>> i thought that maybe updating the firmware might do the trick (the
>> dell website HAS firmware updates for this drive), but again - no
>> windows to run that darned exe.
>>     
>
>
> I was thinking about this thread:
> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/978540
> but it doesn't seem relevant, so nevermind :/
>
> -RW
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>   


From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov  4 21:00:43 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:00:43 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] location of xorg.conf on fedora?
In-Reply-To: <20081104145350.03384a18@liberty.rlwhome>
References: <4910ACC5.10703@gmail.com>
	<20081104145350.03384a18@liberty.rlwhome>
Message-ID: <4910B7FB.8030907@gmail.com>

...interesting.
so how do i configure it?
can i force it to use a res that it doesn't auto detect?
has bleeding edge forced me back into 800x600 instead of a 
much-easier-in-the-eyes 1280x1024?

Robby Workman wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:12:53 -0600
> E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> on a whim today i thought i'd try the new fedora 10 release candidate
>> on my fun box. usually when i install a new distro on this box (i
>> have three 80G partitions + swap), they never detect my monitor
>> correctly (i think that this is because it is connected through an
>> iogear KVM), and i wind up with very low resolution options.
>> my solution to this is to mount up /dev/sda2 (my slackware partition) 
>> and copy the xorg.conf that slackware (and only slackware i've found) 
>> properly configures, to the new distro's /etc/X11/.
>> it doesn't look like fedora puts their xorg.conf in the place that i
>> am used to finding it.
>> so where is it?
>> does this different configuration mean that copying that known
>> working xorg.conf to fedora is going to work?
>>     
>
>
> Fedora is bleeding edge, so they're almost surely taking advantage of
> the new "autoconfiguration" of X via HAL or {Policy,Device,Console}Kit
> with Xorg 7.4.  IOW, there isn't a config file, because it's not needed.
>
> -RW
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>   


From rw at rlworkman.net  Tue Nov  4 21:06:38 2008
From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:06:38 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] location of xorg.conf on fedora?
In-Reply-To: <4910B7FB.8030907@gmail.com>
References: <4910ACC5.10703@gmail.com>
	<20081104145350.03384a18@liberty.rlwhome>
	<4910B7FB.8030907@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20081104150638.18b902fc@liberty.rlwhome>

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:00:43 -0600
E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> ...interesting.
> so how do i configure it?
> can i force it to use a res that it doesn't auto detect?
> has bleeding edge forced me back into 800x600 instead of a 
> much-easier-in-the-eyes 1280x1024?


I don't know the answer to that, and of course, keep in mind that I may
very well be wrong about the entire issue.  I don't, haven't, and don't
intend to use Fedora, so caveat lector.

-RW
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From mark at markgreene.info  Tue Nov  4 21:08:47 2008
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:08:47 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] location of xorg.conf on fedora?
In-Reply-To: <20081104150638.18b902fc@liberty.rlwhome>
References: <4910ACC5.10703@gmail.com><20081104145350.03384a18@liberty.rlwhome><4910B7FB.8030907@gmail.com><20081104150638.18b902fc@liberty.rlwhome>
Message-ID: <935089844-1225832923-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1859595766-@bxe284.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Have you looked at the documentation? I find it hard to believe they would leave you with no way to manually set things. 
-----Original Message-----
From: Robby Workman <rw at rlworkman.net>

Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:06:38 
To: <tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org>
Subject: Re: [Tuxaloosa] location of xorg.conf on fedora?


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From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org  Tue Nov  4 23:01:22 2008
From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:01:22 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting: Thursday November 6
Message-ID: <20081104230122.1b82cfa8@tuxaloosa.org>

The Tuscaloosa Linux User's Group will be meeting at Capture Studio
Cafe[1] at 6:00pm on Thursday night.

We will continue on some organizational and logistical issues for the
group. Stewart has (hopefully) been working on a logo for the group. We
can work out what sort of info that we want to be on the flyer.

We will also discuss the upcoming TechMixer Unplugged[2] that is
happening on our regular meeting night November 13 at Innovation Depot.
Registration is required (and FREE). If enough are interested, we could
carpool up for the event.

See you guys at Capture on Thursday night.

Michael


[1] http://capturestudiocafe.com/
[2] http://www.techbirmingham.com/unplugged-2/

From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org  Wed Nov  5 04:19:23 2008
From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:19:23 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] TLUG Meeting: Thursday November 6
In-Reply-To: <20081104230122.1b82cfa8@tuxaloosa.org>
References: <20081104230122.1b82cfa8@tuxaloosa.org>
Message-ID: <20081104221923.04415f9e@liberty.rlwhome>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:01:22 +0000
Michael Ramm <michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org> wrote:

> The Tuscaloosa Linux User's Group will be meeting at Capture Studio
> Cafe[1] at 6:00pm on Thursday night.


Also see http://tuxaloosa.org 

-RW

From studean at comicnet.net  Wed Nov  5 05:44:04 2008
From: studean at comicnet.net (Stewart Dean)
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:44:04 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] logo
Message-ID: <491132A4.2080809@comicnet.net>

Bear in mind that this is a rough "sketch", as it were.  I've got a more 
Tux-like version, too, but I also wanted to see a slightly more stylized 
one as well.  Let me know if you want to see this one fleshed out or if 
you want to see it going in a completely different direction!

Stu
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From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org  Tue Nov  4 18:32:11 2008
From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm)
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:32:11 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] logo
In-Reply-To: <491132A4.2080809@comicnet.net>
References: <491132A4.2080809@comicnet.net>
Message-ID: <20081104183211.2be90665@tuxaloosa.org>

I like it, but I would like to see a more tux-like version as well.

Michael


On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:44:04 -0600
Stewart Dean <studean at comicnet.net> wrote:

> Bear in mind that this is a rough "sketch", as it were.  I've got a
> more Tux-like version, too, but I also wanted to see a slightly more
> stylized one as well.  Let me know if you want to see this one
> fleshed out or if you want to see it going in a completely different
> direction!
> 
> Stu


From kris at catonic.us  Wed Nov  5 07:07:47 2008
From: kris at catonic.us (Kris Kirby)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:07:47 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] [BALU] TLUG Meeting: Thursday November 6
In-Reply-To: <20081104230122.1b82cfa8@tuxaloosa.org>
References: <20081104230122.1b82cfa8@tuxaloosa.org>
Message-ID: <20081105010727.U92904@spaz.catonic.net>

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Michael Ramm wrote:
> The Tuscaloosa Linux User's Group will be meeting at Capture Studio 
> Cafe[1] at 6:00pm on Thursday night.

Tuscausers Linux Group? TLG?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  <kris at catonic.us>
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
		--rly

From studean at comicnet.net  Wed Nov  5 14:10:30 2008
From: studean at comicnet.net (Stewart Dean)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:10:30 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] logo
In-Reply-To: <20081104183211.2be90665@tuxaloosa.org>
References: <491132A4.2080809@comicnet.net>
	<20081104183211.2be90665@tuxaloosa.org>
Message-ID: <4911A956.9030505@comicnet.net>

I think your clock might be 12 hours off... :)

Michael Ramm wrote:
> I like it, but I would like to see a more tux-like version as well.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:44:04 -0600
> Stewart Dean <studean at comicnet.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Bear in mind that this is a rough "sketch", as it were.  I've got a
>> more Tux-like version, too, but I also wanted to see a slightly more
>> stylized one as well.  Let me know if you want to see this one
>> fleshed out or if you want to see it going in a completely different
>> direction!
>>
>> Stu
>>     
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
>   

From jgoodguy at gmail.com  Wed Nov  5 17:32:01 2008
From: jgoodguy at gmail.com (Jim Vines)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:32:01 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] [BALU] TLUG Meeting: Thursday November 6
In-Reply-To: <20081104230122.1b82cfa8@tuxaloosa.org>
References: <20081104230122.1b82cfa8@tuxaloosa.org>
Message-ID: <4911D891.6060204@gmail.com>

Michael Ramm wrote:
> The Tuscaloosa Linux User's Group will be meeting at Capture Studio
> Cafe[1] at 6:00pm on Thursday night.
>
> We will continue on some organizational and logistical issues for the
> group. Stewart has (hopefully) been working on a logo for the group. We
> can work out what sort of info that we want to be on the flyer.
>
> We will also discuss the upcoming TechMixer Unplugged[2] that is
> happening on our regular meeting night November 13 at Innovation Depot.
> Registration is required (and FREE). If enough are interested, we could
> carpool up for the event.
>
> See you guys at Capture on Thursday night.
>
> Michael
>
>
> [1] http://capturestudiocafe.com/
> [2] http://www.techbirmingham.com/unplugged-2/
> _______________________________________________
> Members mailing list
> Members at lists.bham-lug.org
> http://lists.bham-lug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/members
>
>   
Congrats on getting started.

Jim

From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org  Wed Nov  5 09:17:59 2008
From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm)
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:17:59 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] logo
In-Reply-To: <4911A956.9030505@comicnet.net>
References: <491132A4.2080809@comicnet.net>
	<20081104183211.2be90665@tuxaloosa.org>
	<4911A956.9030505@comicnet.net>
Message-ID: <20081105091759.719c9746@tuxaloosa.org>

Nope, I wrote that pretty close to midnight. I only have my tuxaloosa
mail set up at home.

Michael


On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:10:30 -0600
Stewart Dean <studean at comicnet.net> wrote:

> I think your clock might be 12 hours off... :)
> 
> Michael Ramm wrote:
> > I like it, but I would like to see a more tux-like version as well.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:44:04 -0600
> > Stewart Dean <studean at comicnet.net> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Bear in mind that this is a rough "sketch", as it were.  I've got a
> >> more Tux-like version, too, but I also wanted to see a slightly
> >> more stylized one as well.  Let me know if you want to see this one
> >> fleshed out or if you want to see it going in a completely
> >> different direction!
> >>
> >> Stu
> >>     
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TUXaloosa mailing list
> > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
> >
> >   
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa


From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org  Thu Nov  6 18:07:56 2008
From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:07:56 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Test and Reminder
Message-ID: <20081106120756.3bba522b@200601CHE-MR-UL.NORTHPORT>

This is really a test to see if I can send properly through IMAP on my
ubuntu machine.

Let is serve as a reminder that we are meeting tonight at 6:00pm at
Capture Studio Cafe[1]. 

I have sent word through the BALU and AL-LoCo lists of the meeting as
well as on twitter[2], so maybe we will have a couple of more folks
attend.

See you all tonight.

Michael


[1] http://capturestudiocafe.com/
[2] http://twitter.com/michaelramm [to follow me]

From studean at tuxaloosa.org  Fri Nov  7 21:12:19 2008
From: studean at tuxaloosa.org (Stewart Dean)
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:12:19 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Images
Message-ID: <1226092339.29114.4.camel@AIEG-Laptop>

Here are the graphics...  I did a little reading up on "fair use" as it
applies to trademarks, and it should be okay to use the A as long as we
don't claim to be affiliated with or representing the views or opinions
of the University.  If it really bothers anyone, a "fine print"
disclaimer can be added to state as much explicitly.

Stu
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From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org  Fri Nov  7 22:26:28 2008
From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman)
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:26:28 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Images
In-Reply-To: <1226092339.29114.4.camel@AIEG-Laptop>
References: <1226092339.29114.4.camel@AIEG-Laptop>
Message-ID: <20081107162628.7fc79d5e@liberty.rlwhome>

On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:12:19 -0600
Stewart Dean <studean at tuxaloosa.org> wrote:

> Here are the graphics...  I did a little reading up on "fair use" as
> it applies to trademarks, and it should be okay to use the A as long
> as we don't claim to be affiliated with or representing the views or
> opinions of the University.  If it really bothers anyone, a "fine
> print" disclaimer can be added to state as much explicitly.


Very nice!  I'll see about getting these into the site code somehow :)

Do you want me to switch your list mail over to this address, btw?

-RW

From leprkhn at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 22:21:47 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:21:47 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
Message-ID: <4921EE7B.1030600@gmail.com>

i'm setting up vtigerCRM on Debian Etch.
the box has an old RAID card in it that i have 2x80G IDE-100 in raid1 
set up with dmraid.
OS is running on a separate 40G HD.
for the purpose of data redundancy i want the database running (or 
stored?) in the array.
so... how do i set up mysql to do this?

is this really what i want?
RAID is /dev/dm-0 mounted at /mnt/raid
i've never done anything like this before, so any input is very welcome.

erik hanson

From mark at markgreene.info  Mon Nov 17 23:05:46 2008
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:05:46 +0000
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
Message-ID: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Interesting question. I never thought about but I'm sure I will need this answer in the future. Its looking like you need to simply edit your 'my.conf' file for mysql, which is typically located in the root of /etc. 

Change the path of the following:
pid-file=
datadir=
basedir=

There you go. If you already have this in production simply copy everything from the original paths into the new paths. I would use rsync -a to preserve file attributes. 

Restart mysql when you're done of course. 

------Original Message------
From: E Hanson
Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
Sent: Nov 17, 2008 4:21 PM
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location

i'm setting up vtigerCRM on Debian Etch.
the box has an old RAID card in it that i have 2x80G IDE-100 in raid1 
set up with dmraid.
OS is running on a separate 40G HD.
for the purpose of data redundancy i want the database running (or 
stored?) in the array.
so... how do i set up mysql to do this?

is this really what i want?
RAID is /dev/dm-0 mounted at /mnt/raid
i've never done anything like this before, so any input is very welcome.

erik hanson
_______________________________________________
TUXaloosa mailing list
TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa


From leprkhn at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 23:10:10 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:10:10 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
In-Reply-To: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4921F9D2.6030007@gmail.com>

excelent.
no it's not up yet. i wanted to know before i
apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient15-dev

thanks!

Mark Greene wrote:
> Interesting question. I never thought about but I'm sure I will need this answer in the future. Its looking like you need to simply edit your 'my.conf' file for mysql, which is typically located in the root of /etc. 
>
> Change the path of the following:
> pid-file=
> datadir=
> basedir=
>
> There you go. If you already have this in production simply copy everything from the original paths into the new paths. I would use rsync -a to preserve file attributes. 
>
> Restart mysql when you're done of course. 
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: E Hanson
> Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> Sent: Nov 17, 2008 4:21 PM
> Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
>
> i'm setting up vtigerCRM on Debian Etch.
> the box has an old RAID card in it that i have 2x80G IDE-100 in raid1 
> set up with dmraid.
> OS is running on a separate 40G HD.
> for the purpose of data redundancy i want the database running (or 
> stored?) in the array.
> so... how do i set up mysql to do this?
>
> is this really what i want?
> RAID is /dev/dm-0 mounted at /mnt/raid
> i've never done anything like this before, so any input is very welcome.
>
> erik hanson
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
>   


From leprkhn at gmail.com  Mon Nov 17 23:25:22 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:25:22 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
In-Reply-To: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <4921FD62.5030706@gmail.com>

looking at these settings in my.cnf, i wonder if i should recreate the 
same directory structure. (i.e. pid-file is currently set to 
/var/run/mysql/mysqld.pid. when changing it run in /mnt/raid should i 
have it run in /mnt/raid/var/run/mysql/mysqld.pid?)
shoulld i just set them all to /mnt/raid?
i know that /var/lib/mysql (current datadir) has other files in it. do i 
need to move those files? link to those files?

e hanson

Mark Greene wrote:
> Interesting question. I never thought about but I'm sure I will need this answer in the future. Its looking like you need to simply edit your 'my.conf' file for mysql, which is typically located in the root of /etc. 
>
> Change the path of the following:
> pid-file=
> datadir=
> basedir=
>
> There you go. If you already have this in production simply copy everything from the original paths into the new paths. I would use rsync -a to preserve file attributes. 
>
> Restart mysql when you're done of course. 
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: E Hanson
> Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> Sent: Nov 17, 2008 4:21 PM
> Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
>
> i'm setting up vtigerCRM on Debian Etch.
> the box has an old RAID card in it that i have 2x80G IDE-100 in raid1 
> set up with dmraid.
> OS is running on a separate 40G HD.
> for the purpose of data redundancy i want the database running (or 
> stored?) in the array.
> so... how do i set up mysql to do this?
>
> is this really what i want?
> RAID is /dev/dm-0 mounted at /mnt/raid
> i've never done anything like this before, so any input is very welcome.
>
> erik hanson
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
>   


From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 19:09:38 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:09:38 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
In-Reply-To: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <492312F2.6070202@gmail.com>

ok... it looks like i've managed to botch things a bit. when i
/etc/init.d/mysql start
i get a failed message.
/var/log/syslog says:
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld_safe[4367]: started
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: 081118 11:05:17  InnoDB: 
Operating system error number 13 in a file operation.
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: The error means mysqld 
does not have the access rights to
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: the directory.
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: File operation call: 
'create'.
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.
Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld_safe[4376]: ended
Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: 0 processes alive and 
'/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in
Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: 
^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: error: 'Can't connect 
to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: Check that mysqld is 
running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]:
Nov 18 11:17:01 inventory /USR/SBIN/CRON[4518]: (root) CMD (   cd / && 
run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
Nov 18 11:45:48 inventory -- MARK --
Nov 18 12:05:48 inventory -- MARK --
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld_safe[4588]: started
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: 081118 12:16:12  InnoDB: 
Operating system error number 13 in a file operation.
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: The error means mysqld 
does not have the access rights to
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: the directory.
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: File operation call: 
'create'.
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.
Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld_safe[4597]: ended
Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: 0 processes alive and 
'/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in
Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: 
^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: error: 'Can't connect 
to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: Check that mysqld is 
running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!

so i assume that i need to change permissions on the new dirs and their 
contents.
is the mysql user just mysql? is there a group mysql?
should i #chown mysql:mysql new/dirs/ ?
is that a little broad sweeping?

thanks
e hanson

Mark Greene wrote:
> Interesting question. I never thought about but I'm sure I will need this answer in the future. Its looking like you need to simply edit your 'my.conf' file for mysql, which is typically located in the root of /etc. 
>
> Change the path of the following:
> pid-file=
> datadir=
> basedir=
>
> There you go. If you already have this in production simply copy everything from the original paths into the new paths. I would use rsync -a to preserve file attributes. 
>
> Restart mysql when you're done of course. 
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: E Hanson
> Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
> Sent: Nov 17, 2008 4:21 PM
> Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
>
> i'm setting up vtigerCRM on Debian Etch.
> the box has an old RAID card in it that i have 2x80G IDE-100 in raid1 
> set up with dmraid.
> OS is running on a separate 40G HD.
> for the purpose of data redundancy i want the database running (or 
> stored?) in the array.
> so... how do i set up mysql to do this?
>
> is this really what i want?
> RAID is /dev/dm-0 mounted at /mnt/raid
> i've never done anything like this before, so any input is very welcome.
>
> erik hanson
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUXaloosa mailing list
> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>
>   


From cameron.purvis at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 20:46:23 2008
From: cameron.purvis at gmail.com (Cameron Purvis)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:46:23 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
In-Reply-To: <492312F2.6070202@gmail.com>
References: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<492312F2.6070202@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22e6c2170811181246p6b5c18a2o784d139ac70d8f31@mail.gmail.com>

I believe you can detect your mysql userid with a 'ps -aux | grep
mysql'  - chances are it's 'mysql' or 'mysqld'.

The chmod sounds promising - maybe tar up the stuff with permissions
preserved before you do it :)

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:09 PM, E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> ok... it looks like i've managed to botch things a bit. when i
> /etc/init.d/mysql start
> i get a failed message.
> /var/log/syslog says:
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld_safe[4367]: started
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: 081118 11:05:17  InnoDB: Operating
> system error number 13 in a file operation.
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: The error means mysqld does
> not have the access rights to
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: the directory.
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: File operation call:
> 'create'.
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.
> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld_safe[4376]: ended
> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: 0 processes alive and
> '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in
> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin:
> connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: error: 'Can't connect to
> local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: Check that mysqld is
> running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]:
> Nov 18 11:17:01 inventory /USR/SBIN/CRON[4518]: (root) CMD (   cd / &&
> run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
> Nov 18 11:45:48 inventory -- MARK --
> Nov 18 12:05:48 inventory -- MARK --
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld_safe[4588]: started
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: 081118 12:16:12  InnoDB: Operating
> system error number 13 in a file operation.
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: The error means mysqld does
> not have the access rights to
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: the directory.
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: File operation call:
> 'create'.
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.
> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld_safe[4597]: ended
> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: 0 processes alive and
> '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in
> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin:
> connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: error: 'Can't connect to
> local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: Check that mysqld is
> running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
>
> so i assume that i need to change permissions on the new dirs and their
> contents.
> is the mysql user just mysql? is there a group mysql?
> should i #chown mysql:mysql new/dirs/ ?
> is that a little broad sweeping?
>
> thanks
> e hanson
>
> Mark Greene wrote:
>>
>> Interesting question. I never thought about but I'm sure I will need this
>> answer in the future. Its looking like you need to simply edit your
>> 'my.conf' file for mysql, which is typically located in the root of /etc.
>> Change the path of the following:
>> pid-file=
>> datadir=
>> basedir=
>>
>> There you go. If you already have this in production simply copy
>> everything from the original paths into the new paths. I would use rsync -a
>> to preserve file attributes.
>> Restart mysql when you're done of course.
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: E Hanson
>> Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
>> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
>> ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
>> Sent: Nov 17, 2008 4:21 PM
>> Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
>>
>> i'm setting up vtigerCRM on Debian Etch.
>> the box has an old RAID card in it that i have 2x80G IDE-100 in raid1 set
>> up with dmraid.
>> OS is running on a separate 40G HD.
>> for the purpose of data redundancy i want the database running (or
>> stored?) in the array.
>> so... how do i set up mysql to do this?
>>
>> is this really what i want?
>> RAID is /dev/dm-0 mounted at /mnt/raid
>> i've never done anything like this before, so any input is very welcome.
>>
>> erik hanson
>> _______________________________________________
>> TUXaloosa mailing list
>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>
>>
>
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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov 18 22:33:45 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:33:45 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
In-Reply-To: <22e6c2170811181246p6b5c18a2o784d139ac70d8f31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <405082937-1226963123-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-862702300-@bxe182.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>	<492312F2.6070202@gmail.com>
	<22e6c2170811181246p6b5c18a2o784d139ac70d8f31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <492342C9.3010100@gmail.com>

i would up looking at /etc/shadow to find out that it was user mysql. 
then i looked at my.cnf and there it was... staring at me all this time: 
user=mysql.
sadly chown -hR mysql:mysql /mnt/raid/* didn't get it started, though it 
did get rid of the permissions error. i'm still getting an error that says:
error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: 
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!

i am going to try to change the socket variable in my.cnf to match the 
location of the other changed values (/mnt/raid/mysql/orig/dir/structure).
wish me luck.

Cameron Purvis wrote:
> I believe you can detect your mysql userid with a 'ps -aux | grep
> mysql'  - chances are it's 'mysql' or 'mysqld'.
>
> The chmod sounds promising - maybe tar up the stuff with permissions
> preserved before you do it :)
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:09 PM, E Hanson <leprkhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> ok... it looks like i've managed to botch things a bit. when i
>> /etc/init.d/mysql start
>> i get a failed message.
>> /var/log/syslog says:
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld_safe[4367]: started
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: 081118 11:05:17  InnoDB: Operating
>> system error number 13 in a file operation.
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: The error means mysqld does
>> not have the access rights to
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: the directory.
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: File operation call:
>> 'create'.
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld[4370]: InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.
>> Nov 18 11:05:17 inventory mysqld_safe[4376]: ended
>> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: 0 processes alive and
>> '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in
>> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin:
>> connect to server at 'localhost' failed
>> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: error: 'Can't connect to
>> local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
>> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]: Check that mysqld is
>> running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
>> Nov 18 11:05:32 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4511]:
>> Nov 18 11:17:01 inventory /USR/SBIN/CRON[4518]: (root) CMD (   cd / &&
>> run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
>> Nov 18 11:45:48 inventory -- MARK --
>> Nov 18 12:05:48 inventory -- MARK --
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld_safe[4588]: started
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: 081118 12:16:12  InnoDB: Operating
>> system error number 13 in a file operation.
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: The error means mysqld does
>> not have the access rights to
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: the directory.
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: File operation call:
>> 'create'.
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld[4591]: InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.
>> Nov 18 12:16:12 inventory mysqld_safe[4597]: ended
>> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: 0 processes alive and
>> '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in
>> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin:
>> connect to server at 'localhost' failed
>> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: error: 'Can't connect to
>> local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
>> Nov 18 12:16:27 inventory /etc/init.d/mysql[4732]: Check that mysqld is
>> running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
>>
>> so i assume that i need to change permissions on the new dirs and their
>> contents.
>> is the mysql user just mysql? is there a group mysql?
>> should i #chown mysql:mysql new/dirs/ ?
>> is that a little broad sweeping?
>>
>> thanks
>> e hanson
>>
>> Mark Greene wrote:
>>     
>>> Interesting question. I never thought about but I'm sure I will need this
>>> answer in the future. Its looking like you need to simply edit your
>>> 'my.conf' file for mysql, which is typically located in the root of /etc.
>>> Change the path of the following:
>>> pid-file=
>>> datadir=
>>> basedir=
>>>
>>> There you go. If you already have this in production simply copy
>>> everything from the original paths into the new paths. I would use rsync -a
>>> to preserve file attributes.
>>> Restart mysql when you're done of course.
>>> ------Original Message------
>>> From: E Hanson
>>> Sender: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org
>>> To: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
>>> ReplyTo: Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group
>>> Sent: Nov 17, 2008 4:21 PM
>>> Subject: [Tuxaloosa] install mysql in non-default location
>>>
>>> i'm setting up vtigerCRM on Debian Etch.
>>> the box has an old RAID card in it that i have 2x80G IDE-100 in raid1 set
>>> up with dmraid.
>>> OS is running on a separate 40G HD.
>>> for the purpose of data redundancy i want the database running (or
>>> stored?) in the array.
>>> so... how do i set up mysql to do this?
>>>
>>> is this really what i want?
>>> RAID is /dev/dm-0 mounted at /mnt/raid
>>> i've never done anything like this before, so any input is very welcome.
>>>
>>> erik hanson
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TUXaloosa mailing list
>>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TUXaloosa mailing list
>>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> TUXaloosa mailing list
>> TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org
>> http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa
>>
>>     
> _______________________________________________
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>   


From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org  Tue Nov 18 22:48:23 2008
From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:48:23 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] mail @tuxaloosa.org
Message-ID: <20081118164823.5643b9bf@liberty.rlwhome.lan>

Allen and Cameron,

If you'd like, I can set up an @tuxaloosa.org address for you.
I realize you probably don't need it, but the option is there
nonetheless.

-RW

From mark at markgreene.info  Mon Nov 24 00:57:31 2008
From: mark at markgreene.info (Mark Greene)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:57:31 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Ubuntu 8.10 VPN - MS PPTP
Message-ID: <b21ea1dea6295907f2c5f729c7efe2c4@localhost>



Is anyone else having lots of problems with Microsoft VPN connections in
Ubuntu 8.10? I'm connecting with the Network Manager plugin. 

My problems: 

 - If I save my password for the VPN connection then I get the following
error when I try to connect: "The VPN Connection 'UA' failed because there
were no valid VPN secrets" 

and if I remove the saved password to type it in manually on connecting,
it works fine. 

UNTIL... 

- Once I've been connected for 15 minutes or so, the VPN connection fails.


- Mark
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From allen at ua.edu  Mon Nov 24 02:42:17 2008
From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:42:17 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Ubuntu 8.10 VPN - MS PPTP
Message-ID: <C3F694DC4B0D2345B03A546495B32095040306@ua-mail1.ua-net.ua.edu>

Hmmmm... I have an Ubuntu 8.10 system at work. I will try it through our MS VPN on Monday and see if I get the same result.

Allen B.


________________________________

From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org 
To: tuxaloosa at tuxaloosa.org 
Sent: Sun Nov 23 18:57:31 2008
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Ubuntu 8.10 VPN - MS PPTP 


Is anyone else having lots of problems with Microsoft VPN connections in Ubuntu 8.10? I'm connecting with the Network Manager plugin.

My problems:

 - If I save my password for the VPN connection then I get the following error when I try to connect: "The VPN Connection 'UA' failed because there were no valid VPN secrets"

and if I remove the saved password to type it in manually on connecting, it works fine.

UNTIL...

- Once I've been connected for 15 minutes or so, the VPN connection fails.

- Mark

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From leprkhn at gmail.com  Tue Nov 25 22:15:21 2008
From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:15:21 -0600
Subject: [Tuxaloosa] attn: Robby
Message-ID: <492C78F9.6040303@gmail.com>

am i remembering correctly that you're starting a linux group at one of 
the local highschools? If so, do any of the kids need boxes? or maybe 
you'd like to have a dedicated lab set up for them? let me know how i 
can help out.

erik hanson