From rw at rlworkman.net Thu Dec 4 06:12:44 2008 From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:12:44 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] attn: Robby In-Reply-To: <492C78F9.6040303@gmail.com> References: <492C78F9.6040303@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081204001244.4a63b3c3@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:15:21 -0600 E Hanson wrote: > am i remembering correctly that you're starting a linux group at one > of the local highschools? If so, do any of the kids need boxes? or > maybe you'd like to have a dedicated lab set up for them? let me know > how i can help out. Yeah, I've got a small group for the time being. No chance of a dedicated lab - we don't have the space, and I suspect that our IT department wouldn't go for that anyway. As to whether any of them could use a spare box for linux, I suspect that the answer is yes, but I don't know for sure. I'll inquire at our next meeting. -RW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From leprkhn at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 16:20:44 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:20:44 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] attn: Robby In-Reply-To: <20081204001244.4a63b3c3@liberty.rlwhome.lan> References: <492C78F9.6040303@gmail.com> <20081204001244.4a63b3c3@liberty.rlwhome.lan> Message-ID: <4938035C.6020503@gmail.com> that sounds great. though i feel like i should get an ok from parents before sending their kid home with an internet ready computer. should i write up some sort of permission slip? should you? i certainly don't want to break protocol in any way. Robby Workman wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:15:21 -0600 > E Hanson wrote: > > >> am i remembering correctly that you're starting a linux group at one >> of the local highschools? If so, do any of the kids need boxes? or >> maybe you'd like to have a dedicated lab set up for them? let me know >> how i can help out. >> > > > Yeah, I've got a small group for the time being. > No chance of a dedicated lab - we don't have the space, and I suspect > that our IT department wouldn't go for that anyway. > > As to whether any of them could use a spare box for linux, I suspect > that the answer is yes, but I don't know for sure. I'll inquire at our > next meeting. > > -RW > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > From leprkhn at gmail.com Thu Dec 4 20:21:03 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:21:03 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] acer aspire one Message-ID: <49383BAF.4030700@gmail.com> so my wife bought me an acer aspire one for christmas (AND gave it to me early) and i have to say that i'm impressed. it came with xp home installed (which, i must say, ran pretty darn well), and it has a 160G hard drive (so no SSD). i toyed with the xp for a while, then got bored and wanted linux. so i instelled the ubuntu UNR release. it wasn't as fast to boot as the xp was, but almost everything worked out of the box (wireless, camera, touchpad, audio - no card readers yet though), and everything worked like you would expect an ubuntu distro to work. even had a custom gnome interface (https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UNR). i didn't have to do any work to get it that way though. so i am currently installing backtrack3 on it. why not right? i have a problem though. i've got bt3 up and running from a usb stick and when i boot it up with the ethernet cable plugged in, all of the network interfaces work; but when i boot without it plugged in the all i get are eth0 and lo. no wireless. has anyone ever seen this before? the wifi is an atheros AR5006EG. erik From rw at rlworkman.net Thu Dec 4 20:34:45 2008 From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:34:45 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] acer aspire one In-Reply-To: <49383BAF.4030700@gmail.com> References: <49383BAF.4030700@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081204143445.77a0ec44@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:21:03 -0600 E Hanson wrote: > why not right? i have a problem though. i've got bt3 up and running > from a usb stick and when i boot it up with the ethernet cable > plugged in, all of the network interfaces work; but when i boot > without it plugged in the all i get are eth0 and lo. no wireless. > has anyone ever seen this before? the wifi is an atheros AR5006EG. If I had to guess, I'd say that BT has no support for the atheros stuff. BT is IMHO a bad derivative of Slackware (they use Slackware as their base, but it's halfass in a lot of places, from what I understand - no personal experience with it), and since they've based on 12.1, they're shipping 2.6.24.x kernel. That kernel did not have the ath{5,9}k driver in it, so you'll need to install the madwifi stuff for that chipset to work. -RW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Robby Workman wrote: > On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:21:03 -0600 > E Hanson wrote: > > >> why not right? i have a problem though. i've got bt3 up and running >> from a usb stick and when i boot it up with the ethernet cable >> plugged in, all of the network interfaces work; but when i boot >> without it plugged in the all i get are eth0 and lo. no wireless. >> has anyone ever seen this before? the wifi is an atheros AR5006EG. >> > > > If I had to guess, I'd say that BT has no support for the atheros > stuff. BT is IMHO a bad derivative of Slackware (they use Slackware as > their base, but it's halfass in a lot of places, from what I understand > - no personal experience with it), and since they've based on 12.1, > they're shipping 2.6.24.x kernel. That kernel did not have the > ath{5,9}k driver in it, so you'll need to install the madwifi stuff > for that chipset to work. > > -RW > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org Tue Dec 9 20:28:37 2008 From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:28:37 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] December Meeting - Thurs 6pm Capture Message-ID: <20081209142837.484364e5@200601CHE-MR-UL.NORTHPORT> Howdy everyone! This is a reminder that we will have our December meeting on Thursday night at 6:00pm at Capture Studio Cafe. We can talk about ways to expand the group, work on copy for a flyer, and Erik can show off his new Aspire One! [I just saw one at Office Depot, and I really want one, or maybe a eeePC 1000] Bryan: Can you put up on the Capture calendar on your website. Who knows, maybe it will get some folks to come as well! Thanks! See everyone Thursday night! Michael From leprkhn at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 21:22:27 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:22:27 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] December Meeting - Thurs 6pm Capture In-Reply-To: <20081209142837.484364e5@200601CHE-MR-UL.NORTHPORT> References: <20081209142837.484364e5@200601CHE-MR-UL.NORTHPORT> Message-ID: <493EE193.1030109@gmail.com> i'll be there. the acer one is currently dual booting debian lenny (works great - fast and stable... it's debian after all) and kubuntu-daily (still struggling with wifi in here, but i hear that the eye-candy can be nice in KDE 4.1... we'll see). along the way i did find a tool that i absolutely love. it's called unetbootin (http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html). it builds install USBs of a nice variety of distros. i've only tried a few (and a couple - like the BSDs - still need an ftp mirror to retrieve packages from) and they all seem to work well (assuming your board will USB boot). it was nice for the acer one because it has no cd/dvd drive, but i think that the big one for me is that maybe i won't have to burn distro disks any more. see everyone tomorrow. erik Michael Ramm wrote: > Howdy everyone! > > This is a reminder that we will have our December meeting on Thursday > night at 6:00pm at Capture Studio Cafe. > > We can talk about ways to expand the group, work on copy for a flyer, > and Erik can show off his new Aspire One! [I just saw one at Office > Depot, and I really want one, or maybe a eeePC 1000] > > Bryan: Can you put up on the Capture calendar on your website. Who > knows, maybe it will get some folks to come as well! Thanks! > > See everyone Thursday night! > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > > From cameron.purvis at gmail.com Wed Dec 10 03:43:47 2008 From: cameron.purvis at gmail.com (Cameron Purvis) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 21:43:47 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] UA OIT Research posting for a student worker Message-ID: <22e6c2170812091943u731df806y3eea95b42cae3cf5@mail.gmail.com> Not trying to go too off-topic, but I'll hijack the list in blatant self-interest - although hopefully it will be of interest to somebody: In case anyone's interested or knows someone interested, I've got a couple of student positions I'll be trying to fill in OIT Research. Undergrads or grad students are okay, and I'm looking for Unix/Linux skills and preferably programming. Anyone interested should check it out on the UA jobs site, http://facultyjobs.ua.edu/ Interested applicants should apply soon; I am on a short timetable. Rather hurry-up-and-wait, that is. :) I plan to start the employment in the Spring semester. From studean at comicnet.net Wed Dec 10 14:13:42 2008 From: studean at comicnet.net (Stewart Dean) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:13:42 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Robby -- stop holding our kids back! Message-ID: <493FCE96.3010907@comicnet.net> Just in case anyone hasn't seen this yet: http://tinyurl.com/5bxczy The funny part is where the teacher seems to liken using Linux to drug use or experimental lesbianism... "...I along with many others tried Linux during college..." But what, she didn't inhale? From rw at rlworkman.net Wed Dec 10 14:17:05 2008 From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:17:05 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Robby -- stop holding our kids back! In-Reply-To: <493FCE96.3010907@comicnet.net> References: <493FCE96.3010907@comicnet.net> Message-ID: <20081210081705.2e39cbcf@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:13:42 -0600 Stewart Dean wrote: > Just in case anyone hasn't seen this yet: > > http://tinyurl.com/5bxczy > > The funny part is where the teacher seems to liken using Linux to > drug use or experimental lesbianism... "...I along with many others > tried Linux during college..." But what, she didn't inhale? Haha! I *just* finished commenting on that post! http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1056897&cid=26059493 -RW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks! > > See everyone Thursday night! I'll be there, and I have Slackware 12.2 (official) iso images on the hard drive if someone wants to bring a cat5 cable to pull copies :) -RW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Wednesday is free if you are. -RW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org Fri Dec 12 05:21:49 2008 From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:21:49 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] can't make the meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: <4941C7C5.5030806@gmail.com> References: <4941C7C5.5030806@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081211232149.799b7cfe@crunchie> The group meets on the 1st and 3rd Fridays usually. I think tomorrow is a special meeting. Robby would know though. Michael On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:09:09 -0600 E Hanson wrote: > i'm a terrible person... > i actually can't make it tomorrow. could we do it on monday instead? > > erik > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org Fri Dec 12 05:54:55 2008 From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:54:55 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] can't make the meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: <20081211232149.799b7cfe@crunchie> References: <4941C7C5.5030806@gmail.com> <20081211232149.799b7cfe@crunchie> Message-ID: <20081211235455.10912b1c@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:21:49 -0600 Michael Ramm wrote: > The group meets on the 1st and 3rd Fridays usually. I think tomorrow > is a special meeting. Robby would know though. Yeah, it is (or actually, was, at this point). Since Erik can't make it, I'll put out an announcement tomorrow that we're not meeting, and ask the guys to come see me at some point during the day to check on Wednesday... -RW From leprkhn at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 16:14:18 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:14:18 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] can't make the meeting tomorrow In-Reply-To: <20081211235455.10912b1c@liberty.rlwhome.lan> References: <4941C7C5.5030806@gmail.com> <20081211232149.799b7cfe@crunchie> <20081211235455.10912b1c@liberty.rlwhome.lan> Message-ID: <49428DDA.7000004@gmail.com> wednesday it is then... at 3:00 pm? 3:30? one other thing that completely slipped my mind is that i may be a little short on monitors; and the ones that i have are old CRTs. i'm going to get everything together today and see what's what. that being said, if there are any old monitors (and VGA cables) out there that need a good home... e hanson ps - im pretty sure that i have everything else: boxes, keyboards, mice, and power cables. Robby Workman wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:21:49 -0600 > Michael Ramm wrote: > > >> The group meets on the 1st and 3rd Fridays usually. I think tomorrow >> is a special meeting. Robby would know though. >> > > > Yeah, it is (or actually, was, at this point). Since Erik can't make > it, I'll put out an announcement tomorrow that we're not meeting, and > ask the guys to come see me at some point during the day to check on > Wednesday... > > -RW > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > > From rworkman at tchs-lug.org Mon Dec 15 21:49:43 2008 From: rworkman at tchs-lug.org (Robby Workman) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:49:43 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Meeting Wednesday Message-ID: <20081215154943.236781f3@liberty.rlwhome.lan> TCHS LUG Members: We need to meet for a few minutes after school on Wednesday (12/17/2008) - Erik Hanson (and possibly Michael Ramm) from the Tuscaloosa Linux Users Group will be in attendance, and Erik has a proposal for you guys... :) -RW From leprkhn at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 22:15:22 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:15:22 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] county high LUG - room number Message-ID: <4948287A.3090703@gmail.com> robby, what the room number that i'll find you at tomorrow? erik From rw at rlworkman.net Tue Dec 16 22:54:54 2008 From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:54:54 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] county high LUG - room number In-Reply-To: <4948287A.3090703@gmail.com> References: <4948287A.3090703@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081216165454.589762bb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:15:22 -0600 E Hanson wrote: > robby, > what the room number that i'll find you at tomorrow? I'm in 2214 -- but if you'll call me when you get close, I'll come down and meet you (and direct you to a decent parking area). -RW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From leprkhn at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 23:18:06 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:18:06 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] county high LUG - room number In-Reply-To: <20081216165454.589762bb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> References: <4948287A.3090703@gmail.com> <20081216165454.589762bb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> Message-ID: <4948372E.6070406@gmail.com> will do. what's the number? Robby Workman wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:15:22 -0600 > E Hanson wrote: > > >> robby, >> what the room number that i'll find you at tomorrow? >> > > > I'm in 2214 -- but if you'll call me when you get close, I'll come down > and meet you (and direct you to a decent parking area). > > -RW > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > From rw at rlworkman.net Tue Dec 16 23:27:51 2008 From: rw at rlworkman.net (Robby Workman) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:27:51 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] county high LUG - room number In-Reply-To: <4948372E.6070406@gmail.com> References: <4948287A.3090703@gmail.com> <20081216165454.589762bb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> <4948372E.6070406@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081216172751.6559b5cc@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:18:06 -0600 E Hanson wrote: > will do. what's the number? My cell # that I gave you Thursday night. -RW -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: not available URL: From leprkhn at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 23:39:23 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:39:23 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] county high LUG - room number In-Reply-To: <20081216172751.6559b5cc@liberty.rlwhome.lan> References: <4948287A.3090703@gmail.com> <20081216165454.589762bb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> <4948372E.6070406@gmail.com> <20081216172751.6559b5cc@liberty.rlwhome.lan> Message-ID: <49483C2B.8010707@gmail.com> heh... right. Robby Workman wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:18:06 -0600 > E Hanson wrote: > > >> will do. what's the number? >> > > > My cell # that I gave you Thursday night. > > -RW > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > From leprkhn at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 15:16:38 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:16:38 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] thought this was funny... Message-ID: <494917D6.5060509@gmail.com> http://www.aegisub.net/2008/12/if-programming-languages-were-religions.html From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org Fri Dec 19 04:06:50 2008 From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:06:50 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Linux Proficiency Message-ID: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> I am not a goals kind of guy, but I have decided that in 2009, I would like to become proficient in the Linux operating system. What exactly does that mean? I am not really sure, and that is why I bring the question to the lists. I have been using Linux full time on my work laptop since late 2007. So I am at about 1 year of using Linux everyday. I am light years ahead of where I was when I decided to move to Ubuntu. I have stayed with Ubuntu on my work laptop, but my desktops at home have seen Ubuntu, Crunchbang [1] and Arch Linux on them. I have settled on Crunchbang 8.10 for my desktop, and possibly my next work laptop. When I first started thinking of metrics that I can use to measure proficiency, I thought of some sort of Linux certification. There are two Linux certifications that I found. CompTIA Linux+[2] and Linux Professional Institute [3] has a three level certification program as well. I am thinking that I would not get the actual certification, but instead just pass some of the practice tests. I have heard from a twitter friend who is also a Linux trainer that both of those certs are out of date. What are your thoughts on metrics for Linux proficiency? What can I use to gauge my progress through this trek? Thanks for your help. Michael From michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org Fri Dec 19 04:17:08 2008 From: michaelramm at tuxaloosa.org (Michael Ramm) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:17:08 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Forgot to notate my links Message-ID: <20081218221708.2563a357@crunchie> I decided to make that post into a blog post. You can see it with links (that I forgot) here: http://blog.1manit.net/2008/12/linux-proficiency/ Michael From kris at catonic.us Fri Dec 19 08:41:58 2008 From: kris at catonic.us (Kris Kirby) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 02:41:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Tuxaloosa] [BALU] Linux Proficiency In-Reply-To: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> References: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> Message-ID: <20081219023931.P78705@spaz.catonic.net> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Michael Ramm wrote: > I am not a goals kind of guy, but I have decided that in 2009, I would > like to become proficient in the Linux operating system. > > What exactly does that mean? I am not really sure, and that is why I > bring the question to the lists. find / -exec man {} \; Then start building things and breaking them. There is nothing like trying to find the backup superblock with only sh, fsck, and a few other friends. It may take several hours to enumerate sector by sector through the disk, but eventually the logs will tell you where the filesystem used to live, so you can recreate the disklabel, fdisk entries, and pull the data off the slice. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. --rly From allen at ua.edu Fri Dec 19 14:20:07 2008 From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:20:07 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Linux Proficiency In-Reply-To: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> References: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> Message-ID: Michael, I have been looking in depth at the various offerings for Linux certifications and training recently, since our new CIO is a big fan of certifications. Why not go ahead and get certified as well? The Redhat (RHCE) and SUSE (NCLE) track ones would probably be the best way to go to increase the chance of $$$ in the future and to look good on a resume. Whether we like it or not, those are the two distros that most employers are looking for experience with. The LPI certs are distro independent, though, and focus on concepts and the standard way of doing things. I agree 100% with the previous reply. I have learned more by repairing broken systems and actual experience than I have ever picked up from any books (but they are a great reference!). Anyway, I suppose it depends on your long-term goal. If your goal is to just learn for your own enjoyment (which is the way I got started doing anything with Linux...), grab a copy of Slackware and Debian to start with...learn to do everything the "hard way" to begin with. Then, grab a copy of OpenSUSE and CentOS...configure them, and you will have an understanding of what the config utilities are doing in the background based on your experience doing it manually. Once you have done that, then you can dive into the world of BSD....OpenBSD and NetBSD to start with, followed by FreeBSD and the variants. The init style will look vaguely familiar after spending some time with Slackware :) Then if you are really feeling masochistic, you can delve into Solaris x86... Just a few thoughts... Allen B. -----Original Message----- From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org [mailto:tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ramm Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:07 PM To: Tuxaloosa; BALU Linux/Free Software Discussion; Alabama Ubuntu LoCo Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Linux Proficiency I am not a goals kind of guy, but I have decided that in 2009, I would like to become proficient in the Linux operating system. What exactly does that mean? I am not really sure, and that is why I bring the question to the lists. I have been using Linux full time on my work laptop since late 2007. So I am at about 1 year of using Linux everyday. I am light years ahead of where I was when I decided to move to Ubuntu. I have stayed with Ubuntu on my work laptop, but my desktops at home have seen Ubuntu, Crunchbang [1] and Arch Linux on them. I have settled on Crunchbang 8.10 for my desktop, and possibly my next work laptop. When I first started thinking of metrics that I can use to measure proficiency, I thought of some sort of Linux certification. There are two Linux certifications that I found. CompTIA Linux+[2] and Linux Professional Institute [3] has a three level certification program as well. I am thinking that I would not get the actual certification, but instead just pass some of the practice tests. I have heard from a twitter friend who is also a Linux trainer that both of those certs are out of date. What are your thoughts on metrics for Linux proficiency? What can I use to gauge my progress through this trek? Thanks for your help. Michael _______________________________________________ TUXaloosa mailing list TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa From cameron.purvis at gmail.com Fri Dec 19 15:23:32 2008 From: cameron.purvis at gmail.com (Cameron Purvis) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:23:32 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Linux Proficiency In-Reply-To: References: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> Message-ID: <22e6c2170812190723w40f85af0p890eafb9b3849126@mail.gmail.com> If you're not a goals kind of guy, you might want to think of it more as a journey. That's hokey, but in terms of Unix/Linux I can't help but think that it's a process that mever gets completed. The automated stuff, like Allen suggests, are just layers over the 'bad old way'. The nice thing about the bad old way is that if doesn't matter which Linux you learn, it's approximately the same anywhere you go. As for what it means to be proficient, I think it depends on context. When I started working with this stuff the basic needs of our Unix environment, and the range of what it could do, were different. Given the skills you see as neccesary to service the Unix landscape you perceive, what would you think is important to know? I started out with access to a Sun box, an Ultrix system and an old (old!) Slackware system, and was getting nowhere. "How much to I know this" became something unmeasureable without specializng on one consistent platform (Redhat) and then focusing on particular tasks. Otherwise it was impossible to tell if my problems were due to lack of skills or weirdness in the platform. Even if the choice isn't the best, it's consistent. Distro-hopping is a big barrier to progress; there is always a nicer distro, probably coming out today, and another one next week. If you at least stick in the family then there's less to unlearn. I don't let myself change Linux flavor more than once a year, after an exciting month where I went through four flavors on my home computer and realized I was accomplishing nothing. It's been a while but my first roadmap was something like: hit the high points and then drill into the stuff I needed to do. I gauged my personal progress in terms of specific clusters of tasks. Once I knew how _printing_ worked, I just needed to find out the dialect differences on any other Unix I needed to use. My initial roadmap was something like - installation and login - log file identification and extracts (sed, awk, perl) - job scheduling (cron, at) - printing (lpd) from and through the system (print server services) - web server (static pages, cgi) - X Windows install (hey, it was a long time ago) and so on. Once I got pretty comfortable with something and was used to it, I'd kick things up a bit by, for instance, moving away from the Redhat standard package and downloading the current one and building from source. Building stuff from source is a great way to knock the 'magic' out of it. Another alternative is if you find something that's hard, easy, or interesting to you, take a tangent! Get 'into' it and monkey with the works. Some people have a few super-hero skill areas; you might be the guy who completely groks cups, or grub, or something like that. And being a person with general proficiency but a complete zenlike knowledge of a few things is admirable and often quite hirable :) If you really want to up the ante of knowing the low-level parts, check out Linux From Scratch. It's a real old-school build technique that basically has you build your whole system from source. The WHOLE thing. As for certifications, a colleague really like the Redhat certification. It cost a little money but he said it was quality - not just class tests, but testing and teaching and practical exams: here's a web server. It's down. Fix it. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org > [mailto:tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ramm > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 10:07 PM > To: Tuxaloosa; BALU Linux/Free Software Discussion; Alabama Ubuntu LoCo > Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Linux Proficiency > > I am not a goals kind of guy, but I have decided that in 2009, I would > like to become proficient in the Linux operating system. > > What exactly does that mean? I am not really sure, and that is why I > bring the question to the lists. > > I have been using Linux full time on my work laptop since late 2007. So > I am at about 1 year of using Linux everyday. I am light years ahead of > where I was when I decided to move to Ubuntu. I have stayed with Ubuntu > on my work laptop, but my desktops at home have seen Ubuntu, Crunchbang > [1] and Arch Linux on them. I have settled on Crunchbang 8.10 for my > desktop, and possibly my next work laptop. > > When I first started thinking of metrics that I can use to measure > proficiency, I thought of some sort of Linux certification. There are > two Linux certifications that I found. CompTIA Linux+[2] and Linux > Professional Institute [3] has a three level certification program as > well. I am thinking that I would not get the actual certification, but > instead just pass some of the practice tests. I have heard from a > twitter friend who is also a Linux trainer that both of those certs are > out of date. > > What are your thoughts on metrics for Linux proficiency? What can I use > to gauge my progress through this trek? > > Thanks for your help. > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > From thomas at wsinnovations.com Fri Dec 19 06:19:18 2008 From: thomas at wsinnovations.com (Thomas Stover) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:19:18 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] [BALU] Linux Proficiency In-Reply-To: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> References: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> Message-ID: <494B3CE6.9050607@wsinnovations.com> I'll start with a rhetorical question. What does being proficient at computers mean? Exactly, nothing - that's way to open ended. What are you more interested in? At a certain point that is all you have to go about the answer to your question. To put it another way, the only way you will ever be worth a salt at anything you do of course is to explore and follow the things you find a passion about. That never stops. At some point along the way you just step back and go, "hey you know there sure is allot of stuff I know". That sounds like what you are doing already. Just keep going. Now if some more specific things don't come to mind right away, that's fine. All that means is that for now you want to explore what some of the worlds are underneath that next layer. For instance, step way back and look at it in maybe a new way. What intrigues you about this whole linux thing anyway? - The power it gives you to put together an applied end result? Like wow we did that job for $30,000 less than the other crappy way. - Where does it come from? How to mold it to my designs? How to create things leveraging tools and knowledge from that world? - What are other people doing with it? How exactly does it make so much of the internet work? How is it used for research, or business? How do you do something you would do with another OS the linux way? - How does it work? What's under the hood? What is are all the moving parts doing? Start with questions like that. I bet everybody on this list has a different idea about what linux (and the worlds of related software we always lump in there implicitly by that word) is. Another way to look at it is that really tons of linux stuff isn't really linux stuff at all. It applies all over the place. TCP/IP & network in general, Software development, unix-ish system administration, server infrastructure stuff like storage networks / redundancy / fail over & load balancing, etc... Michael Ramm wrote: > I am not a goals kind of guy, but I have decided that in 2009, I would > like to become proficient in the Linux operating system. > > What exactly does that mean? I am not really sure, and that is why I > bring the question to the lists. > > I have been using Linux full time on my work laptop since late 2007. So > I am at about 1 year of using Linux everyday. I am light years ahead of > where I was when I decided to move to Ubuntu. I have stayed with Ubuntu > on my work laptop, but my desktops at home have seen Ubuntu, Crunchbang > [1] and Arch Linux on them. I have settled on Crunchbang 8.10 for my > desktop, and possibly my next work laptop. > > When I first started thinking of metrics that I can use to measure > proficiency, I thought of some sort of Linux certification. There are > two Linux certifications that I found. CompTIA Linux+[2] and Linux > Professional Institute [3] has a three level certification program as > well. I am thinking that I would not get the actual certification, but > instead just pass some of the practice tests. I have heard from a > twitter friend who is also a Linux trainer that both of those certs are > out of date. > > What are your thoughts on metrics for Linux proficiency? What can I use > to gauge my progress through this trek? > > Thanks for your help. > > Michael > > From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org Fri Dec 19 18:23:02 2008 From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:23:02 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] Linux Proficiency In-Reply-To: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> References: <20081218220650.094c6cf9@crunchie> Message-ID: <20081219122302.40ba0ddf@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:06:50 -0600 Michael Ramm wrote: > I am not a goals kind of guy, but I have decided that in 2009, I would > like to become proficient in the Linux operating system. > > What exactly does that mean? I am not really sure, and that is why I > bring the question to the lists. As others have noted, it's context-sensitive. That aside, I'm not sure *anyone* really knows *the* answer (unless, perhaps, it's "42") ;-) As we all know, I'm a bit biased, but one of the things we try to do with Slackware is build a system that is "un-complex" enough such that one person can grok how it's all put together and how the various parts interact with each other. I'll be the first to admit that this task is getting less possible with each passing day, and perhaps it's already a lost cause, as I'm not even convinced that *I* qualify :) The thing is, there's just a *lot* of upstream software (udev and hal come to mind) perceived to be black magic by end users, and it's not the most trivial process to get it all working so that the end user doesn't have to care much about it -- but when they do have to care, the goats should run, because at least one *must* be sacrificed to appease the gods. ;-) > When I first started thinking of metrics that I can use to measure > proficiency, I thought of some sort of Linux certification. There are > two Linux certifications that I found. CompTIA Linux+[2] and Linux > Professional Institute [3] has a three level certification program as > well. I am thinking that I would not get the actual certification, but > instead just pass some of the practice tests. I have heard from a > twitter friend who is also a Linux trainer that both of those certs > are out of date. > > What are your thoughts on metrics for Linux proficiency? What can I > use to gauge my progress through this trek? I'm not really familiar with any of the certifications, but from what little I've looked into the LPI practice stuff, I suspect that they're just like most other standardized tests: 1. Potentially invalid questions, such as not recognizing that there is more than one good way to do something, and thus creating the expectation that the test-taker is aware of the test company's way 2. Vague questions; more than one answer is potentially correct, depending on which (equally valid) interpration of the question is used 3. No way to discriminate between the test-taker who has "crammed" (memorized stuff) and the test-taker who has a good understand of Linux (this point is especially important, as it's this person who will be most affected by points 1 and 2) -RW -RW From leprkhn at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 17:44:52 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:44:52 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] hardware virtualization Message-ID: <494D2F14.5020109@gmail.com> running the new slack on my main box - AMD Phenom 9500/GigaByte GAMA790X/ATI HD 4850/4G RAM (yes, i have a windows partition for illustrator/photoshop/indesign and games)... i want to get rid of that windows partition and im wondering how i should continue to use my adobe apps. in the bios on my board there is an option to optimize for hardware virtualization. will VirtualBox or VMWare make use of my video hardware? i have a copy of crossover office that claims to do the photoshop via WINE, but that still leaves me without illustrator and indesign (i can live without the games). what i WANT to do is install an uber-minimal windows xp in a virtual machine and run them there. has anyone done this? how does it work? which virtualization app should i use? is one better than the rest? i remember reading on /. about Suns VBox using the hardware well, but haven't used it. so... what are peoples thoughts? erik From allen at ua.edu Sat Dec 20 18:13:04 2008 From: allen at ua.edu (Beddingfield, Allen) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:13:04 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] hardware virtualization References: <494D2F14.5020109@gmail.com> Message-ID: Enabling that in the bios turns on access to the AMD-V (or Intel VT-x on Intel systems). This will give you much better performance on your VMs, but is only to do with the CPU. VMware or VirtualBox (or XEN for that matter) will make use of this. I would go with Virtualbox. The performance of the VMware server in video, etc...is horrible. The for-pay VMware workstation is better, but it takes some extra tinkering to get it to work on Slackware the last time I went that route. Virtualbox is what I use to virtualize Windows on top of Linux on my workstation at work and have had good luck with it. I have not tried the latest build, though. I think it is supposed to have improved video support, but I'm not sure about that. I know that it does support AMD's virtualization very well, but I have had very unpredictable results with their support on Intel CPUs. Sometimes that works...sometimes it doesn't...sometimes it brings down the host OS in the crash... Shouldn't be a problem for you with AMD CPUs, though. When you create a VM, you will have to manually force it to use AMD-V, otherwise it will not by default. Either way, you are going to be emulating some old video hardware - not accessing the onboard hardware directly, so I doubt it will be up to handling Adobe apps. Your best bet will probably be to try getting that going under Crossover. Hope this helps... Allen B. -----Original Message----- From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org on behalf of E Hanson Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 11:44 AM To: tuxaloosa Subject: [Tuxaloosa] hardware virtualization running the new slack on my main box - AMD Phenom 9500/GigaByte GAMA790X/ATI HD 4850/4G RAM (yes, i have a windows partition for illustrator/photoshop/indesign and games)... i want to get rid of that windows partition and im wondering how i should continue to use my adobe apps. in the bios on my board there is an option to optimize for hardware virtualization. will VirtualBox or VMWare make use of my video hardware? i have a copy of crossover office that claims to do the photoshop via WINE, but that still leaves me without illustrator and indesign (i can live without the games). what i WANT to do is install an uber-minimal windows xp in a virtual machine and run them there. has anyone done this? how does it work? which virtualization app should i use? is one better than the rest? i remember reading on /. about Suns VBox using the hardware well, but haven't used it. so... what are peoples thoughts? erik _______________________________________________ TUXaloosa mailing list TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa From leprkhn at gmail.com Sat Dec 20 20:39:15 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 14:39:15 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] hardware virtualization In-Reply-To: References: <494D2F14.5020109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494D57F3.4000803@gmail.com> trying to install the vbox package found here: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/system/virtualbox-ose/ but i keep getting the error: Checking for iasl: ** iasl (variable IASL) not found! so i look for iasl (turn out it's an intel compiler) which takes me to this package: http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/development/acpica/ so i install the acpica package, but i'm still getting the same error. thoughts? erik Beddingfield, Allen wrote: > Enabling that in the bios turns on access to the AMD-V (or Intel VT-x on Intel systems). This will give you much better performance on your VMs, but is only to do with the CPU. VMware or VirtualBox (or XEN for that matter) will make use of this. I would go with Virtualbox. The performance of the VMware server in video, etc...is horrible. The for-pay VMware workstation is better, but it takes some extra tinkering to get it to work on Slackware the last time I went that route. Virtualbox is what I use to virtualize Windows on top of Linux on my workstation at work and have had good luck with it. I have not tried the latest build, though. I think it is supposed to have improved video support, but I'm not sure about that. I know that it does support AMD's virtualization very well, but I have had very unpredictable results with their support on Intel CPUs. Sometimes that works...sometimes it doesn't...sometimes it brings down the host OS in the crash... Shouldn't be a p > roblem for you with AMD CPUs, though. When you create a VM, you will have to manually force it to use AMD-V, otherwise it will not by default. > Either way, you are going to be emulating some old video hardware - not accessing the onboard hardware directly, so I doubt it will be up to handling Adobe apps. Your best bet will probably be to try getting that going under Crossover. > > Hope this helps... > > Allen B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tuxaloosa-bounces at tuxaloosa.org on behalf of E Hanson > Sent: Sat 12/20/2008 11:44 AM > To: tuxaloosa > Subject: [Tuxaloosa] hardware virtualization > > running the new slack on my main box - AMD Phenom 9500/GigaByte > GAMA790X/ATI HD 4850/4G RAM (yes, i have a windows partition for > illustrator/photoshop/indesign and games)... > i want to get rid of that windows partition and im wondering how i > should continue to use my adobe apps. in the bios on my board there is > an option to optimize for hardware virtualization. will VirtualBox or > VMWare make use of my video hardware? i have a copy of crossover office > that claims to do the photoshop via WINE, but that still leaves me > without illustrator and indesign (i can live without the games). > what i WANT to do is install an uber-minimal windows xp in a virtual > machine and run them there. has anyone done this? how does it work? > which virtualization app should i use? is one better than the rest? i > remember reading on /. about Suns VBox using the hardware well, but > haven't used it. > so... what are peoples thoughts? > > erik > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > > > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > > From leprkhn at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 17:37:26 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:37:26 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] VBox on slackware Message-ID: <494E7ED6.2090407@gmail.com> i'm having a little trouble getting VirtualBox on the new Slackware (12.2). i've tried a SlackBuild with the source. and i've tried ./configure, make, make install on the source and both give me the following output after unpacking: patching file VBox.sh /tmp/SBo/VirtualBox-2.0.6 Checking for environment: Determined build machine: linux.x86, target machine: linux.x86, OK. Checking for kBuild: found, OK. Checking for gcc: found version 4.2.4, OK. Checking for as86: found version 0.16.17, OK. Checking for bcc: found version 0.16.17, OK. Checking for iasl: ** iasl (variable IASL) not found! and then it exits. google tell me that iasl is an intel compiler. part of the acpica package. acpica.org has unix source code, but also says that the linux kernel >2.4 has it built in, and that the linux versions of the user-space ACPICA utilities (iASL, AcpiExec, AcpiXtract) can be built from the UNIX ACPICA source code package. so i got the package and built iasl (in the compiler/ dir) with make, and it built just fine... but i don't know how to install it. i can run it from the compiler directory. should i just move the contents of the compiler/ directory to a directory in my $PATH? do i need to buils ALL of the tools or can i make do with just the iasl? erik From leprkhn at gmail.com Mon Dec 22 18:21:01 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:21:01 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] VBox on slackware In-Reply-To: <494E7ED6.2090407@gmail.com> References: <494E7ED6.2090407@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494FDA8D.2040605@gmail.com> i figured it out and got it built. i built the iasl compiler, moved it to /usr/share and linked it to /usr/bin. that allowed me to build virtualbox. then i realized that ./somename.SlackPackage isn't the end of the process and went and looked in my /tmp folder where there was a .tgz of virtualbox AND the acpica that i built. installpkg took care of them and i ready to go. erik E Hanson wrote: > i'm having a little trouble getting VirtualBox on the new Slackware > (12.2). i've tried a SlackBuild with the source. and i've tried > ./configure, make, make install on the source and both give me the > following output after unpacking: > patching file VBox.sh > /tmp/SBo/VirtualBox-2.0.6 > Checking for environment: Determined build machine: linux.x86, target > machine: linux.x86, OK. > Checking for kBuild: found, OK. > Checking for gcc: found version 4.2.4, OK. > Checking for as86: found version 0.16.17, OK. > Checking for bcc: found version 0.16.17, OK. > Checking for iasl: > ** iasl (variable IASL) not found! > > and then it exits. > > google tell me that iasl is an intel compiler. part of the acpica > package. acpica.org has unix source code, but also says that the linux > kernel >2.4 has it built in, and that the linux versions of the > user-space ACPICA utilities (iASL, AcpiExec, AcpiXtract) can be built > from the UNIX ACPICA source code package. > so i got the package and built iasl (in the compiler/ dir) with make, > and it built just fine... but i don't know how to install it. i can > run it from the compiler directory. should i just move the contents of > the compiler/ directory to a directory in my $PATH? do i need to buils > ALL of the tools or can i make do with just the iasl? > > erik > From rworkman at tuxaloosa.org Sun Dec 28 06:52:27 2008 From: rworkman at tuxaloosa.org (Robby Workman) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:52:27 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] VBox on slackware In-Reply-To: <494FDA8D.2040605@gmail.com> References: <494E7ED6.2090407@gmail.com> <494FDA8D.2040605@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081228005227.7c0c4ccb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:21:01 -0600 E Hanson wrote: > i figured it out and got it built. > i built the iasl compiler, moved it to /usr/share and linked it > to /usr/bin. that allowed me to build virtualbox. > then i realized that ./somename.SlackPackage isn't the end of the > process and went and looked in my /tmp folder where there was a .tgz > of virtualbox AND the acpica that i built. > installpkg took care of them and i ready to go. Glad you got all that figured out -- sorry I didn't reply earlier, as I could have saved you a hell of a lot of trouble, but the holidays had me turned every which way but loose :/ Our (SlackBuilds.org) virtualbox maintainer is holding off on the new 2.1.0 updates for reasons that I can't remember at the moment, but in the meantime, I've installed the official binaries from virtualbox.org, and they work as expected. One very nice feature addition to the new 2.1.0 builds is host-based networking without any manual configuration of bridging and such. It's always nice to deprecate one of my howto documents :) -RW From leprkhn at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 18:26:15 2008 From: leprkhn at gmail.com (E Hanson) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:26:15 -0600 Subject: [Tuxaloosa] VBox on slackware In-Reply-To: <20081228005227.7c0c4ccb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> References: <494E7ED6.2090407@gmail.com> <494FDA8D.2040605@gmail.com> <20081228005227.7c0c4ccb@liberty.rlwhome.lan> Message-ID: <4957C4C7.1090402@gmail.com> Robby Workman wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:21:01 -0600 > E Hanson wrote: > > >> i figured it out and got it built. >> i built the iasl compiler, moved it to /usr/share and linked it >> to /usr/bin. that allowed me to build virtualbox. >> then i realized that ./somename.SlackPackage isn't the end of the >> process and went and looked in my /tmp folder where there was a .tgz >> of virtualbox AND the acpica that i built. >> installpkg took care of them and i ready to go. >> > > > Glad you got all that figured out -- sorry I didn't reply earlier, as I > could have saved you a hell of a lot of trouble, but the holidays had > me turned every which way but loose :/ > no worries... asked-for answers never get the results that searched-for answers do, and i prefer my learning to turn up more questions along the way. keeps me busy. > Our (SlackBuilds.org) virtualbox maintainer is holding off on the new > 2.1.0 updates for reasons that I can't remember at the moment, but in > the meantime, I've installed the official binaries from virtualbox.org, > and they work as expected. One very nice feature addition to the new > 2.1.0 builds is host-based networking without any manual configuration > of bridging and such. It's always nice to deprecate one of my howto > documents :) > i've had to put vbox on hold, but i'll keep the bin release in mind. did you use an rpm? i got a 22' lcd and i'm having problems getting xorg to output 1680x1050 res. > -RW > _______________________________________________ > TUXaloosa mailing list > TUXaloosa at tuxaloosa.org > http://tuxaloosa.org/mailman/listinfo/tuxaloosa > >